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[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm a xennial. I was so excited by computers, and later the internet. It completely absorbed me to the point that I would get up an hour early for school so I could mess around with the computer before catching the bus. A beautiful (ugly) Compaq with a 200n megabyte hard drive, 2 megs of ram. 86 architecture. I was about 11 years old.

I played a few games, but I spent much more time messing around the system in DOS. Making batch files, then working with qbasic. Of course I played Nintendo games as well. After we got internet I used a 28.8kbps modem to upload my own webpage via FTP.

I remember thinking, even as a child/teenager, that the kids of the future were going to be incredible, being born into the digital internet age. I was so wrong. My classmates struggled with computers because they weren't amazed by them like I was. Touch typing class had nothing on ICQ.

I think there are a lot of xennials on Lemmy. It was crushing to see that the generations before and after us can't comprehend the basics of computers. Then smartphones happened and everything got so much worse.

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You were a nerd interested in computers. They still exist in younger generations. Just became way less common because the necessity disappeared for most people. Most prefer computers (or any device or tech really) that "just works". Some are interested in how things work. 90% of Lemmy is the latter, from all generations but many in their 30s and 40s because that was peak computer learning age: rather cheap hardware, software still needed to be hacked together somewhat, clear rewards when doing so (for example messing with game settings IRQ etc to get it running).

I've met people born late 90s early 00s doing PhD in computer science who barely seem to know basic general computer stuff... All they know is that one extremely niche thingy they're into. They never needed to learn general basics that much, stuff just worked out of the box.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah it's wild. I don't think it's good but I'm not doing a great job teaching. One of my gen Z nephews expressed an interest so I gave him my old PC, took it apart with him and put it back together, explained everything.

He rearranged his room and told me when he hooked everything back up his games were super slow. Every time I touch his PC I clean it up from scam shit spyware etc. I pretend not to notice where all this stuff came from.

But this time was different. He'd plugged his monitor into the motherboard instead of the graphics card. He recently redid his room again and got it right this time! Small victories.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Every time I touch his PC I clean it up from scam shit spyware etc. I pretend not to notice where all this stuff came from.

Let they that never borked the family PC with "boobs.exe" from limewire castle the first stone!

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Carving an entire castle from one stone would be incredibly impressive engineering. Or a very small castle.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Fucking Autoassume...I'm leaving it because it's fucking funny 🤣

At first I had assumed you'd look at my profile and were making a topical joke. I'm a Stone Mason, and I work in Conservation. So, this is incredibly fun/funny and I'm absolutely here for it!

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 10 points 3 days ago

Gen Z here and I can agree. I used to mess with computers, especially when I got older, so I could play games. Later I kind of slipped into the open source and tech bubbles. If there is a problem that annoys me enough to overcome my laziness I will fix it. I have no problems with writing scripts so I don't have to do stuff manually each time. And then I look left and right and realise that most people in my age dont even have a computer and only use iPads and such stuff. They have zero fucking clue what happens behind the scenes.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think the real cross-generational parallel here going back is Boomers and cars. Their parents before WWII had the equivalent of bare bones stuff, but Boomer era cars were more complicated, but also meant status and were a hobby.

Looking forward, the Gen Z and A kids are just utterly abused by the social media that we xennials/millennial told them was a safe new requirement for life. It wasn't. It was our leaded gasoline and secondhand smoke. However, their opportunity environment is that they don't behave like we did as consumers. Their expectation that all media should be free and immediately available is where the world needs to bend to them. As Boomers loose their grip on the economy, open source everything is going to be the world they created for us.

We don't need to expect everyone to learn like we did because it was a unique moment in time where tinkering got us somewhere in that specific area. But can you fix a carburetor float? No, and Boomers see your lack of awareness there the same as you see deficiencies in others.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I can fix a carb float and also use a computer

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

People who can do both certainly exist, but they exist within a sliver of purple in the Venn diagram.

[–] wookiepedia@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can also fix a carb and write code too. Skills are useful!

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Specialization is for insects