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You may as well have shown a picture of people enjoying dating and music in the 60s.
I think some decades were much better than today for sure, at least in terms of enjoying life.
I would go to the 60s rather than go to the future if given the choice. I used to be the other way, looking forward to the future because cool tech etc. But not now.
As a woman who was a teenager in the 1960s, yeah no thanks. Once was enough. Good music but everything else was shite.
In what way? I would love to hear more about it, honestly. From my perspective it seems super relaxed and people were friendly and loving... But that's just from watching TV shows about it. I'm born 1975...
Civil rights has entered the chat.
I sure wouldn't want to be black or a woman in the 1960s.
For starters, ever heard of the Vietnam War?
I'm assuming you are from US, so I don't think any woman or black person from there will agree with you. These ppl had no rights or these were ignored in the majority of your country. In 1959 the last baseball team starts to accept Negros in their teams. I don´t believe that one year after everything were fine. And if you talk about any other place out of US, well, it is worse, Europe has families divided by cold war, IIrc UK we're having an economic crisis... I really believe that were bobbles during this time, but it was for a minority
Idk something tells me being black or gay or a woman or an American or Vietnamese man from the ages 18-24 wouldn't be too hot in the 60s but what do I know, we only have entirely unfettered access to historical documents from the time.
Vietnamese ppl: I'm a joking to you?
I don't think this would be as good as you think, because we can't "unknow" what we know today. The obvious one is giving up all the social progress we've made since then. Also, imagine knowing about climate change and being surrounded by people who either don't know or are worried about it but don't have the science we have today to understand the issue. All the nightmares we have today will still happen, but you're trapped in the past knowing it all and not being able to do anything about it.
Corporate dystopia, total government control over privacy and autonomy, climate crises, mandatory state-issued ID required to access a highly-restricted internet, 'subscription plans' infecting nearly every industry to destroy the concept of individual private ownership, personal finances with 'expiry dates' via the use of CBDC's and subversive savings taxes...
Yeah, I'll take the 1960's, thanks. The future is bleak. I don't intend to live long if freedom, privacy, and individualism are the first liberties on the chopping block, which worryingly seems to be the case.
Pretty sure they were living in interesting times in the 60's, too.
https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/civil-rights-movement
https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/1997/summer/equality-in-the-sixties.html
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2010/03/12/the-1960s-a-decade-of-change-for-women
You put it in a good way, yup. It feels like there is absolutely nothing to look forward to.
60s...? With the stinky self-righteous hippies and overblown music? I have it on good authority that the 70s were actually where it was at.
Overblown music? What in tarnation are you talking about? Some of the greatest songs ever written were recorded in that decade.
Okay Boomer.
It's true that Jimi Hendrix can't match up with the incredible music of Ed Sheeran, but he tried.
Well, if that's your comparison, sure... Music changes, and musical tastes vary, so I'll avoid trying to give examples or make comparisons, I just don't think music of that era was particularly better than music since then. It's a weird fluke of history that we developed decent recording and playback technology right as the 60s bands were coming up. That probably explains why it holds such a grip on culture. But personally I think there have been some incredible musicians since the 60s.
You called it overblown. Now you're saying it's just as good as what happened later. I think you need to make up your mind.
Actually I said sort of the opposite: what's been done since then is just as good as what was done back then, which therefore is overblown by people who claim it's somehow better. No contradiction.
Nobody claimed it was better. You said it was overblown, to which I countered that some of the best music ever recorded is from that era, therefore not overblown. Some of the best music ever recorded is newer too. But for rock and roll, that was the era in which a lot of magic happened, a lot of progress was made, and it changed the face of music for everything that came after. So it's not overblown. That doesn't mean it's better than whatever music you think I'm comparing it to. It means that it stands on its own as worthy of the praise it receives.
Yeah, I guess that's fair enough. I've just run into way too many people who seem to think it's the only music worth listening to or something. I can agree with what you said pretty much.
I'm not a boomer, but nice try I guess.
Sorry, I'm just used to hearing how much better music used to be in the 60s from people my parents' age.
I expanded my statement in a reply to one of your other comments, but I never said it was "better". I said it's not overblown. Better is almost entirely subjective and would require a comparison, which was never given.