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[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 15 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Switching from WhatsApp to any other messaging service isn't a realistic option for quite many places. I'd be more than willing to switch but of all the people in my contacts (including my entire customer base) there's like 3 people using Signal but every single one of them has WhatsApp. Even the 60+ year olds.

[–] callyral@pawb.social 8 points 18 hours ago

Same (Brazil), Whatsapp is pretty much a requirement and I hate that I'm forced to give Meta my information by using their shitty app.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 1 points 11 hours ago

Help with what?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

And yet it gets repeated (and upvoted) in every thread.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Acts like a psyop to stop us finding solutions. Now, I will respond and you should too.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

That's Lemmy in a nutshell. Guillotine and Luigi memes are constantly repeated because they know that no one's actually going to act on that stuff, but any time anyone suggests a practical means to weaken the oligopoly people come out of the woodwork to shut it down.

[–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

There is always SMS for these.

[–] arken@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Hey, wouldn't it be great if Signal still supported SMS?

[–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Personally I see no benefit in having them in the same application.

[–] pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 18 hours ago

There benefit would be exactly what this top comment is about. For all those people in your contacts who don't use signal, you could still use signal to message them, it would just be an SMS message. It would therefore also become more enticing for people to switch from their stock SMS app to signal, because it would make no difference in terms of who you can send SMS messages to. It would allow for the signal user base to grow, solving the issue of "no one uses signal"

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

At least WhatsApp is encrypted and let you have propre group chat

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

WhatsApp's a scam, anti-libre software.

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yes but it is still better than SMS.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Saying it's secure feeds their scam. At least we don't pay for it like SMS.

[–] pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You still pay for SMS? Wtf, what country do you live in? Most postpaid mobile plans these days only charge for data usage. In which case, your still paying to use WhatsApp.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)
[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I did not say it was secure, I actually spend a lot of time explaining to people that it is secure and they should switch to Signal. However, I will not tell them to go back to SMS for the reason aforementioned.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Saying it’s ~~secure~~ encrypted feeds their scam. At least we don’t pay for it like SMS.

[–] Cabbage_Pout61@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

My trouble as well, I'd love to switch from Whatsapp, but literally every person I talk to and most people in my city/estate/country uses It.

There's a "vendor lock" term, maybe this would be a "social lock"?

[–] pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 18 hours ago

It has to start with someone. I made my entire family switch to signal by boycotting WhatsApp. I just said, of you want to contact me your can either SMS, email or install signal. It was surprisingly easy. For non family members, I tell people to switch all the time. Most of my contacts now use signal. It was worth the trouble.