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What's great about this, and Stephen Fry is brilliant, is not that he's absolving Musk, or that he's criticizing Tesla, but that it is an argument likely leading to Elon Musk protesting,

'No, my cars are good enough that I can be a Nazi!'

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's just ignoring history. There are plenty of good reasons to hate the Nazis without needing to do that.

In the similar way, it's not necessary to dismiss Soviet Union's early modernization successes in order to blame them for their crimes against humanity.

[–] droplet6585@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Dismiss what? Fascism is catabolic. They can't build anything. They can only loot until they run out of victims.

The projections of hyper competence and secret knowledge are part of their branding.

Stop being a fascist apologist.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Honestly, this shit needs to stop. Acknowledging that some fascists have been good at something at some point does not detract in any way from being anti-fascist.

If you claim that fascist are dumb, stupid and can achieve nothing, what do you think the masses will think about your message when the fascists turn out to be competent? They will wonder what other things you are wrong about.

So I say to you: stop being a fascist enabler.

[–] droplet6585@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

claim that fascist are dumb, stupid and can achieve nothing

I seem to have struck a nerve. I wonder why this bothers you so much?

Fascists are great at: bullshitting, terrorizing and thieving. Fascism is catabolic. It is organized crime with the aesthetic of a political movement.

Obviously that's not the image they present to population of the regions they take. But you knew what I was claiming they are incompetent at.