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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Political speech can involve hate.

Political disagreement, or any other disagreement that does not involve hate and harm should not be in question.

You’re welcome to hate Biden or Trump. You’re not welcome to threaten to kill your political opponent’s supporters.

[–] CorvidCawder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hate speech is not "saying that you hate something"...

That’s not what I said.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk -4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Political speech can involve hate.

Not in a modern society

Political disagreement, or any other disagreement that does not involve hate and harm should not be in question.

It never has been

You’re welcome to hate Biden or Trump.

I make a point of not hating anyone too old to control their bladder

You’re not welcome to threaten to kill your political opponent’s supporters.

Yes, that's the idea

I've not got a clue what point you're making

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Political speech can involve hate.

Not in a modern society

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You cited an example from a society that thinks handguns are a right yet doesn't fight for basic human rights like healthcare

That's absolutely not a modern society

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ok. What society do you consider modern? France? Germany? Sweden? Finland? I can show a politician saying something just as horrible. Maybe not the one in high office, but elected politicians. I sure can't think of a nation that doesn't have at least a handful of racist assholes that get elected by being racist assholes.

Suggesting there is no hate in politics is just naïve. There is no place on this planet free of bigotry and free of people willing to have bigots make decisions for them.

Seems like you got the idea.