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[โ€“] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would be perfectly happy with a VPN that was openly anti-nazi.

[โ€“] Dave@lemmy.nz -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's not the point. A neutral stance VPN has all the anti-Nazis as customers, and all the Nazis. I would prefer anti-Nazi as well but I get that that a neutral stance means they can have more customers, something they need for economy of scale.

If they had stated their anti-trump stance then the freeze peach lemmy instances would probably have all their Nazis cancelling their proton subscriptions.

Honestly I hope all the cancellations on our side aren't balanced by a bunch of Nazis signing up after seeing the comments.

[โ€“] Ferk@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The reality is that being "anti-Nazi" is also a neutral stand. This is in the terms of service of Proton:

Unauthorized activities include, but are not limited to:

[...] 4. Harassing, abusing, insulting, harming, defaming, slandering, disparaging, intimidating or discriminating against someone based on gender, sexual orientation, religion, ethnicity, race, age, nationality or disability;

I don't think Proton is ok with Nazis, but I feel people wanted them to be also "anti-Trump", even if Trump does something to benefit privacy (which, as you hinted, is a neutral action that also benefits anti-Nazis).

[โ€“] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

He's trying to have it both ways though. He wants to support trump and then be like "nooooo! What are you talking about? We're neutral!"

Yeah, with the same Swiss neutrality that doesn't care whose teeth the gold came from.

[โ€“] Dave@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think I quite get what the benefit is to them of supporting Trump's pick. What was it he was hoping to gain, not from the pick but from his comment?

[โ€“] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What benefit do all those who have kissed trump's ring thus far get? All I know is that I'm not about to trust my privacy to someone with 88 in their username. I only signed up for proton last month because of trump. I'll be leaving for another service for the same reason.

[โ€“] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 points 17 hours ago

You do you. Was just sharing some info, I was curious about it as well.