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[โ€“] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We have several prisoners at Guantanamo with absolutely no tangible connection to terrorist organizations. They have been there for 20 years in some cases and have no release or court date scheduled.

[โ€“] FMT99@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Again I'm not trying to defend that bad things our governments do. And Guantanamo is an especially egregious example, I agree. But Guantanamo is something exceptional, not the norm. How many inmates does Guantanamo have? You can look it up, it's public information. You can protest it, you can vote for politicians that agree it should be closed. And yes it's not as easy as that but it can be done.

But now try to stage a public protest against the treatments of Uygurs in Beijing. Try to get details about the people imprisoned there or the conditions they live under. Hell try to find out what happened to your disappeared relatives.

The difference is one is at least paying lip service to ideas like rule of law and democracy, even though at times it breaks its own rules. The other says rule of law is irrelevant.

[โ€“] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

But Guantanamo is something exceptional, not the norm.

orly?

Is that why US either highest or second highest prison population?

You have been providing very naive, regime sanctioned talking points. You don't do any critical analysis of the conditions imposed.

Nobody disputing that US provides limited freedom of assembly. But it does not make US some how superior when they are still oppressing the population. You don't appear to recognize the economic oppression being "as bad" as whatever shepooh does to his property?

Is economic oppression and bureaucratic murder of the population supposed to be some how morally superior?

[โ€“] FMT99@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

It's very hard to stay interested in discussion here. It's just one hyperbole after the other, not to mention folks constantly shoving talking points in your face as if you said them and then arguing against them so they can feel that they won the argument. And all that peppered with this condescending tone. Well fine, you won buddy, congratulations.