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[–] Packet@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Communist mega corporation and government? What strain is that

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The China kind.

"We may disclose any of the Information We Collect to respond to subpoenas, court orders, legal process, law enforcement requests, legal claims, or government inquiries, and to protect and defend the rights, interests, safety, and security of the Platform, our affiliates, users, or the public. We may also share any of the Information We Collect to enforce any terms applicable to the Platform, to exercise or defend any legal claims, and comply with any applicable law."

[–] Packet@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow, a very normal, and widespread TOS part. Which almost EVERY SINGLE COMPANY has. And whatever yammer yer were doing with "communist mega corporation" is also very strange. I hope for the better of yer.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No.

Many companies in the western world will not freely give your information to law enforcement and will even actively fight it. We saw that with apple, we saw that with signal and specifically in germany, we had some other smaller profile cases that have fought law enforcement.

In China, companies are forced to give the government free access to all of its information without any subpoena or anything needed. Which is why many western companies can't do business in china themselves without having a Chinese partner company that handles it for them (Blizzard needed NetEase, for example)

[–] Packet@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Apple?? You used apple as an example? Apple that finally settled the lawsuit where siri recorded conversations and they sent them off to third parties? Comical.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

My point was not that apple is a protector of your data, obviously they're not. No large corporation is. The entire ecosystem of google and facebook would not work without data.

My point was that corporations in the west actually have a chance of fighting against subpoenas and other ways the government might force them to hand out user data, whereas china will probably just make the CEO disappear mysteriously if they don't comply immediately.