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[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I want Ukraine to have a definite and permanent victory, but lionizing the UAF at every level is the propaganda line, not admitting their shortcomings. Its been over 2 years, they've put up a very admirable fight and done a lot of damage to Russia but they've suffered a lot of damage as well. It's a meat grinder for everyone, with minimal to no gains and no end in sight. I am not at all surprised by news of desertions, draft dodging, and generally low morale.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

If it was russia vs china, id agree.

But this is worlds second superpower with worlds top 5 or 10 everything depleting its economy and inheritance from back when it had talented occupied areas do everything for them. A country that even people the most pessimistic about russias capabilites absolutely thought the 3day smo would be a week the most. Now remember they are fighting europes poorest nation recovering from 2014, without full support of nations who promised full boots on ground allegiance and fighting with scraps and one hand behind their back for most of the war.

You can't make this shit up how well Ukraine is doing despite how little enemies of russia and allies of Ukraine are helping ukraine.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It’s a meat grinder for everyone,

False equivalence

no end in sight.

Russia is definitely collapsing as we "speak", the war chest is empty, so although we can't say exactly when, Russia will not be able to continue for much longer.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Russia has the materials and man power to continue for at least another year. Their economy might cause a revolution from within, but if that doesn't happen Russia is in for at least the next two years.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes they do, it all depends on what level of losses and economic pain they are willing to endure.
I'm estimating Russians have lost at least 10% of their purchasing power in 2024, but this year will be worse. Construction and investments in production will come to an almost complete halt, so lost productivity cannot be renewed, and prices on energy, food and housing will all increase dramatically.
Most Russians are not very rich, so they will feel it pretty bad.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 1 points 4 days ago

Unless they force a revolution most Russians don't matter at all. The elites that matter have a very different situation.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 5 points 6 days ago

Absolutely not true.

If a fifth grader and a lion got in a fight and after an hour both parties had lost an eye but still fighting

You're not going to look at that and go "wow that fifth grader is doing really bad" you're going to be like what the fuck is wrong with that lion? Shit was supposed to be over 1000 days ago.

Russia is absolutely losing. A middle school football team is crushing the Lakers in basketball.