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[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

See the Congestion Pricing Tracker for day by day measurements of the impact on congestion.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago

This is an incredible resource. Love stuff like this And I pin this comment if I had that power.

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I’m trying to see the big improvement but it looks like there’s only a few minutes at best difference in drive time going on. What don’t I understand?

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wait time is getting slashed across the board. An example: If in rush hour traffic, 8 minutes was added, but now it's 3 minutes, that's five minutes of car fumes and CO2 avoided, of more cars moving about, of goods being transferred. We're not shaving seconds, we're shaving literal minutes!

We're talking about hundreds of thousands of vehicles. This is New York with millions of people. People, businesses, all these things are affected. If you combine this with other data, you might better see the outcomes.

This isn't tiny incremental gains. From a economic/environmental/commerce standpoint, these are multipliers.

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Great points, I think it’s hard for me to conceptualize without any experience with the numbers being talked about. I probably only see 500 cars going to the grocery store and back, including all of the ones in the parking lot. The numbers you’re talking don’t seem possible to me. That’s not me questioning them just saying why I think it’s hard for me to understand.

I think it would behoove all of us to wait a month and see how things shake out. As it is there was snow last week and it was just coming off the holidays. Let patterns stabilize.