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[–] WeUnite@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

According to Wikipedia "Low-income residents receive a 50 percent discount on daytime tolls after their first ten trips into the congestion zone in a calendar month". So to some extent the system does take your concern into account.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well it pretends to but no system like that will equalise it.

Do the same as we do with fines, based on income.

So that the congestion charge for a billionaire is also actually significant. Enough for then to reconsider using a car.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Billionaires using cars aren't the ones causing congestion though, there just aren't enough of them

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

No, but it's tied to your income, so it doesn't matter what you make. Poor people should have it practically for free (but still for a small nominal fee) as they're often completely broke. Someone making an average salary should pay an average sum, a wealthy person should pay more and an ultrawealthy person should pay even more.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/06/finnish-businessman-hit-with-121000-speeding-fine

That's one of the world's largest speeding fines, and that guy isn't actually even that rich. Like he's barely in double digit millions. That's honestly not that rich on a global scale.

I tried looking for someone with "just" ten times the estimated net worth, so someone worth 100 million. But top 25 richest hollywood actors and #25 is still 170 million. When the fines grow progressively, then those people would pay something like 4-5 million in a fine, probably.

Like when you get a fine of any sorts, unless it's for a very basic infraction, it's going to be day fines. So if you commit an infraction that you don't go to prison for or get probation, you'll have day fines. A day fine is equal to roughly your daily income. You can get 1-120 dayfines for an infraction and if you're getting multiple infractions at the same time it's at most 240 day fines.

The point here is that it would actually be good tax income and it would remove the effect of any regulations being cheaper to break for rich people, which is inherently very unjust.