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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Ahh yes the people who openly take bribes from the wealthy elite ruled that the government can not regulate the wealthy elite. I'm so surprised. Are we listening to the Fox's opinions on gate to the chicken roost too now?

It's in plain text for all to see. This isn't some highly technical debate that this court was the first to see the light on. Chevron was 4 decades old and has supporting decisions from the supreme courts reaching back to st least the 1940's. But sure, these guys saw something different suddenly. And it had nothing to do with the massive amounts of money they've received from billionaires.

And no. Not using the specific words, "declaration of war" doesn't mean anything. Congress had to pass the AUMF bills the same as a declaration of war. Declaring open war was always a possibility.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm not making any statements here about what's "right" or "good", I'm just saying what is. The US government is operating in ways not intended by the constitution. At least not clearly intended. If you want to interpret that as me taking a position then it would be that they should fix their constitution. Until they do that then their government will be unstable and unpredictable.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Here's the section again.

Congress shall have the power ... To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

If they deem the regulatory power of agencies like the FCC to be necessary to carry out something in the entire list of powers I ellipsed; then it is constitutional. And no amount of "fixing" would work as long as we have a captured court ignoring the Constitution, straight up lying about it and about history.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So you're saying that it's the courts that are behaving incorrectly according to their role in the constitution? If so, that doesn't change the underlying point I'm making here.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm saying the courts are operating in bad faith and not even trying to hide it. You can't write your way around someone willing to declare the sky is purple if it profits their friends.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We're saying the same thing. The government is not operating according to how the constitution says it's supposed to be working.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Except you're blaming past congresses who absolutely operated inside their constitutional bounds. That is not the same thing because that would make any effective regulatory scheme impossible and give the courts a pass on their blatant corruption.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm not "blaming" anyone. I'm describing what's happening. The reason why it's happening is irrelevant.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is this you?

The problem is that it isn't a law, it's a regulation.

... it really is just another example of how various parts of the US government have been ceding or delegating their responsibilities around willy-nilly in ways that weren't constitutionally intended....

Because that looks like blame to me, and being just plain wrong.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes, that's me, and it's not blaming. It's describing the problem. I'm not saying whether these things should be law or regulation or whatever, I'm explaining why these things are being overturned in court.

I'm really baffled by what the point of this argument is. Are you trying to say that things are working as intended?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You are wrong about why. The court is lying. They are abusing their power to benefit their billionaire friends. Congress has the power to make the law, and they did make the law. The judiciary had no problem with that law for 90 years, and now suddenly it's an issue?