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Fairphone 5 Launch (inv.tux.pizza)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world to c/android@lemmy.world
 

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[–] Mannimarco@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No headphone jack no sale, it makes zero sense not having one

[–] Vaderhoff@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Genuine question, but for the common user, why should a phone have a headphone jack?

[–] Zardoz@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Can't speak for everyone but here are the reasons I prefer an actual jack:

  • 3.5mm headphones are extremely universal and can be used for any audio device. USB-C and Bluetooth headphones cannot

  • Bluetooth is extremely inconsistent when paired with multiple devices and often gets disconnected because of competing devices

  • I can't charge my phone and listen to USB c headphones at the same time

  • Manufacturers claim the removal of the jack was to improve the water resistance. I have never dropped my phone in water and would be willing to risk it.

  • I already have too many wireless things to charge

  • I have a small stockpile of broken wireless headphones. Meanwhile my 10 year old wired headphones are collecting dust

  • I have never lost something more often than that tiny ass USB to 3.5mm dongle adapter

  • I distrust large corporations with incentive to get consumers to buy more stuff from them

[–] skybox@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Don't forget Bluetooth has absolutely shit audio quality while using the microphone with how it handles call audio (although I'm praying BLE audio fixes this). Also true wireless earbuds can't compare at all to wired earbuds microphones in the slightest.

[–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Your point is generally well taken, but your first point about 3.5 mm jacks being universal isn’t really true any more. It’s nearly impossible to find a device these days with a 3.5 mm audio Jack. It sucks but it’s true.

[–] Bondrewd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

TBH good sounding IEM/Headphones actually worth keeping for years today are almost all modular. IEM/Headphones worthy of playing from a jack will not sound great from a trash built-in one and will need extra AMP/DAC anyway.

Funnily enough, the best AMP/DACs you can get today all use bluetooth. They are even good after the battery dies since they are also wired DAC/AMPs. There are some where a battery change is also likely. IEMs have TWS converters as well.

It is all pretty convenient without a builtin jack, unless you are really running dry on cash and/or dont even care about the most important part which is audio quality.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well TBH, I have been exclusively using Bluetooth headsets for like 7 years now and I've had a good experience with that.

I would recommend either big clamshells (I use a rather expensive but awesome Bose 700) or necklace designs like my LG tone 800 hbs headsets (I got like 4 of those over the years). I bought a pair of extremely expensive Sony WM-1000XM 4 that suck donkey balls for a long list of reasons, but not Bluetooth.

Barring some connection issues sometimee, Bluetooth is really quite nice and allows me to walk around freely. I haven't missed the jack plugs ever, really.

[–] gbzm@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Genuinely, good for you. I don't want to switch to something more expensive, that probably wheighs more on the environment (batteries tend to do that), that I'll lose more easily, that can catch connecticity issues, that force me to turn on bluetooth... And that's okay we just have different priorities. What bugs me is only yours ever seem to be catered to nowadays, even though mine don't seem particularly rare and you can ignore jack plugs easier than I can listen to music while plugged on my external battery

[–] andyMFK@reddthat.com 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

....to plug headphones in. How is this a genuine question?

People still use their phones to listen to music and wireless earphones are almost universally garbage, require charging, and produce insane amounts of e-waste. Wired headphones don't have these issues

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

To have a convenient cheap set of earbuds that keep working, never need any charging nor can be lost.

You can find those everywhere for like 5€, if you don't get them for free with certain devices.

I still have a couple laying around that have never been used.

I don't get battery operated devices for things that don't stray further than 1 meter from the device they are connected to.

[–] suny 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

USB-C dongles are notoriously prone to breaking and also are another bunch of silicon and plastic that contributes to e-waste pollution.

though truth be told, most phone 3.5mm outputs suck donkey balls because of massive output impedance and signal to noise ratio on sensitive headphones (of which most portable audio devices are) and companies should be ashamed of putting these hunks of shit in their phones.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Media playback is always 3 seconds delayed through Bluetooth for me, it's annoying. Plus I like the wired headset I've used for 7 years.