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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Leftism is inherenty tied to technology, especially new.

I don't know, there has always been a huge libertarian contingent of the tech industry as well. I'm not sure which is bigger. I hope the leftism.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 25 points 1 year ago

Yeah crypto bros aren't exactly leftist, neither is the hypercapitalist Silicon Valley crowd, and I've encountered plenty of other tech enthusiasts with worrying opinions.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I feel that comment is on the vibe of “liberals are leftists”.

Edit: “that comment” as in the one above the one I’m replying to…

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Libertarians are not leftists.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ayn Rand style, "Don't tread on me" objectivists, no. But they just co-opted the term. Libertarianism is pretty much anarchism, which is incomoatible with right wing beliefs, no matter what an-caps try and tell you. A right wing social order necessitates hierarchy, which anarchism is diametrically opposed to.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

While yes, libertarian is originally a leftist term, that’s not what I meant.

I meant the first comment saying most people on new tech are leftists is wrong. Most people who are technophilic are liberals. As in US style Democrat liberals. Which are NOT leftists. At all.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why on earth would you say most tech heads are liberal?

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why would you say they aren’t ? They all buy in hard into capitalism.

Where are all these leftist techies?

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think every tech enthusiast "buys hard into capitalism"?

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Hyperbole my friend. Exaggeration.

But to be much more precise and literal: a good amount of them. Likely even a majority, do.

[–] markr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Depends on which libertarian ideology is being expressed. Left libertarians - anarcho-syndicalists libertarian socialists, anarcho-communists are all libertarians. The right wing of anarchism aren't leftists, the left wing are.