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This is exactly how society talked about women going to college. Then in the 90’s-2010’s we prioritized getting rid of systemic barriers and addressing sexism. Now women actually outnumber men in college. Again, people talked the exact same way about women going to college for over half a century. Were they right? Or did it “sound” right so no one challenged it?
OK, women in college. I like this topic. I think it's wrong to encourage all women to go to college considering once they graduate and start a career the clock is ticking down for having kids. And I think this is the root cause of low birth rates in all egalitarian societies.
I think society should encourage women to prioritize being mothers first and to persue career second.
My experience isn't everyone's but my mom raised me till I was like 15 and then she went to college and started her career. I think this is optimal. My childhood was incredible. And because my mom had kids early, I now get to enjoy spending many more years with her than if she had done the college first thing.
Not opposed to feminism but very opposed to current wave feminism.
Also want to say I don't think most men belong in college either. But it makes more sense for them to go to college as soon as possible as they are unable to have children. Right?
Why should kids be a factor at all unless a woman chooses to go that route? They don’t exist to be breeders. That’s their own business. They can make that decision for themselves, not have access (or lack thereof) to education determine it for them.
You oppose current feminism because it doesn’t prioritizing breeding?
Who is going to have kids then? Not that I personally care that the human race is dying out but this is why.
Sorry to edit again but there is absolutely nothing wrong with encouraging motherhood. And you'll notice that women who prioritize kids are looked at as failures in egalitarian societies.
The way you use the word breeding proves my point so perfectly. Women are not animals bro.
My partner and I both have a BA and an advanced degree. We have multiple kids. We have a beautiful life. This was made possible because of our degrees and fields we went in to that made taking care of our kids possible. Lack of education wouldn’t have created our life.
If you want people to have kids, we need PAID parental leave of no less than 3mo for every working person and universal tax-funded childcare.
I don’t blame women for not having kids. Your position shifts the onus on them. They need our support. And some people don’t want to be full time parents! Ask all the men you hold in high esteem if they’ll fill that role.
Prior to modern day feminism, only one parent needed a high paying job to have a family. It's a capitalist idea intended to double the workforce and lower the value of labour.
And no, men aren't natural caregivers. Look at what careers men tend to choose.
how the hell is that feminists’ faults lmao what a terrible take dude. Forced birth and cutting off access to education is not going to create large happy families. It creates death and ignorance and an indentured workforce.
I'm not against abortion or education. I work in higher education. I just think we are steering women the wrong way. Men too.
Well right now what we have is shrinking access to abortion and you saying college should be accessible for men. It’s horrifying to me that you work in higher ed.
I'm not an idiot but thanks for your opinion. I never insulted you and you can't help yourself so I'm not interested in spending more time with you on this.
Also I'm not American. Good luck with your shitty country bro. My country still values women and thankfully people here don't call women breeders.
I didn’t call you an idiot…?
You’re the one talking about women’s utility as child bearers…?
Not sure what just happened but this is not the “gotcha” you think it is. Have a good one dude. Learn what DEI is.
Horrifying I work in education? Fuck off bro
Yes. Your opinions on gender and race are problematic doubly so as an educator, that’s how I feel. I did not call you an idiot. I never attacked your intelligence.
Fuck off too I guess? I thought you were done with this conversation.