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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 70 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Brits who complain about (American) biscuits and gravy have clearly never had (American) biscuits and gravy

[–] theblueredditrefugee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Usually, you'll find they'll start making fun of you before you can even explain what it is

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I love watching videos online of Brits trying food from the southern US because they always recoil at the sight of it before saying it's one of the best things they've ever tasted.

"It looks like a chopped up ferret."

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Those guys are notorious for pandering to their American audience to be fair.

I think I saw the exact video you're referencing here 😂

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

it's pretty good if you can get over the fact it's not biscuits or gravy.

They ain't putting brown sauce on shortbread. more like white sauce on savoury scones.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I don't get the petulant attitude about basic word differences. Different food and linguistic traditions exist in different places. Absolutely bonkers, right?

Early British settlers in the United States brought with them a simple, easy style of cooking, most often based on ground wheat and warmed with gravy. Most were not wealthy men and women, and so it was a source of cheap nutrition.

A very similar practice was also popular once with the Royal Navy as hard, flour-based biscuits would keep for long journeys at sea but would also become so difficult to chew that they had to be softened up. These were first introduced in 1588 to the rations of ships and found their way into the New World by the 1700s at the latest.

The biscuit emerged as a distinct food type in the early 19th century, before the American Civil War. Cooks created a cheaply produced addition for their meals that required no yeast, which was expensive and difficult to store. With no leavening agents except the bitter-tasting pearlash available, beaten biscuits were laboriously beaten and folded to incorporate air into the dough which expanded when heated in the oven causing the biscuit to rise. In eating, the advantage of the biscuit over a slice of bread was that it was harder, and hence kept its shape when wiping up gravy in the popular combination biscuits and gravy.

American biscuits and gravy are direct descendants of British biscuits and gravy. And American biscuits are not scones

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

With how commonly American biscuits are compared to scones, im curious what British scones are like, because the scones I'm familiar with have a very different texture from American biscuits.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're often flakey like biscuits, but that's pretty much where the similarities end. I also think of scones more as desserts than used for something savory.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Sir please don’t ever bring your hate speech to Atlanta if you value your safety

[–] grue@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Or it is biscuits and gravy, and the people who think that phrase means brown sauce on cookies are wrong.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

Are you even allowed to type ain't? Won't they come take your internet license?

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's scones covered in a white sauce built on sausage meat roux. Nothing wrong with it, but not much right with it either, it's just calories.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not scones, American biscuits. They're different. Flaky, buttery, not sweet. And if there's "not much right with it" then you had a crappy gravy without enough grease and pepper.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Probably! I was drawing a comparison for other readers, they're closer to a shortcrust pastry in how they're made. Savoury scones are a thing, by the way - usually made with a bit of cheese.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Lmao you can tell someone is American when they say "if it didn't taste good you just need more grease"

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Drusas@fedia.io 0 points 2 months ago

It's really about the sausage, which releases fat (grease). You don't add grease directly.