~~pharmacists solely being distributors of pre-ordained medication has no detrimental effects on humans. ๐ซ the US is great to its people, and has very good healthcare practices!!~~ (livestream is on the 27th and i am excite, but not involved at all)
https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2024/fahrplan/talk/ASBXWW/
stream link for those interested:
https://streaming.media.ccc.de/38c3
EDIT: my lack of capitalization and poor word choice has confused people. this event is about making legal, tested for efficacy medication only. pharmacists are good. doctors are good. the cost of medication and other hurdles that prevent people from having access to medication are not.
EDIT 2: i looked into the 4 Theives Vinegar Collective (breifly, just on wikipedia) and i did not realize that they made the EpiPencil, which is an open-source device that injects a mesured dose of epinephrine (a medication that can be bought from a trusted and legal distributor). that's awesome stuff, but it's less awesome that they now want to share chemistry knowlege that they don't necissarily have a full understanding of, and push automated synthesis for people who also don't have the foundational knowledge to ensure safety. not really great. i guess that's what happens when healthcare is entirely for-profit, and inaccessable to so many people.
i guess i'll let the FDA and DEA (the lovely agency that largely gets to decide what substances on the "controlled substances" list, then also enforce the laws around those substances) decide what's safe for myself personally, and everyone else ๐คท
to learn about the talk, feel free to click the first link, if you like. it isn't really going to be about laws or "Guv'ment," i don't think. first paragraph (in screenshot) is an attention grabber tho, and i guess it rubs some people the wrong way.
Out of curiosity, which controlled substance is it that you want to manufacture?
๐ค i don't remember mentioning a desire to create, manifest through demonic portal, synthesize, or extract anything not allowed by law. it seems more than a little presumptious to assume i have the want/need to accompish that. the aforementioned live event is not about anything on the CSA, but you did mention "controlled substances," which admittedly triggers me. i suppose you're a fan of the "war on drugs." you do you, i guess.
since we are asking random questions...
what educational materials or ideas do you desire it to be illegal to diseminate? just curious
If you're not breaking the law then you're not "criminalized" and not a "bioterrorist". The post explicitly says they are that and your response to my former comment was that the FDA and DEA don't allow you to decide for yourself. What is it you think they aren't allowing you to do? Tell me.
i mentioned that they "decide what's safe," which you seem to agree with whole-heartedly...
i also didn't claim that i, personally, am a "bioterrorist," and the info about the talk doesn't claim any person themselves is "criminalized."
do you always jump into talking with people with this many assumptions and misconceptions? it is confusing tbh, and i am unsure if you're just trolling, or enjoy arguing for no reason.
Well, the post is literally called "bioterroism rule(s)", so it's not strange that they feel like you're implying that.
if i said "giant mechs controlled by cute cats rule," would that mean i am actually a feline inside a really badass mech suit?
๐ค tough call, really. depends on ths meaning of "sickest," in this context, and (completely genuinely) whether or not this specific group bioterrorists are practicing reasonable safety/harm reduction practices.
i did not realize this, but they may have skipped the whole "chemistry knowledge/experience" and scaling up for efficiency parts of the process, to jump right into automation... kind of bonkers lol.
almost definitely going to catch it live or recorded, but i might be equally intrigued and horrified. i was hoping they chose to use the tone they did to get people excited/interested, but it might be just how they feel.