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Summary

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy asserted that no world leader has the right to negotiate with Russian President Vladimir Putin on behalf of Ukraine.

Speaking to Le Parisien readers, Zelenskyy emphasized that Ukraine alone determines its future and any dialogue with Russia must follow a peace plan based on strength and international support.

He warned against negotiating without clear guarantees of security, highlighting the risks of Putin resuming aggression after a ceasefire.

Zelenskyy called for a strategy ensuring Ukraine's long-term stability and security, beyond NATO or EU membership timelines.

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[–] frozenpopsicle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That statistic sounds off. 1 in 100?

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I used a population of 143,000,000 divided by an estimated death toll in Ukraine of 70,000 and assumed half of the russian population is female.

1 in 100 might be correct if you only consider men of a fighting age.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Holy shit, I haven't looked at the numbers in a while, but

  • Russian population: 140 000 000
  • Male population: 70 000 000
  • Male fighting age population (18 - 60 years): Very approximately 50 000 000 (I honestly just made up a number a bit smaller than 70)
  • Documented KIA: 85 000
  • Projected actual KIA: 170 000 (Note: Prigozin claimed 120 000 KIA in June 2023)
  • Projected number of severely wounded: Roughly 500 000

Result:

  • Roughly 0.34 % fighting age men killed
  • Roughly 1 % of fighting age men severely wounded

This has to be getting close to a point where most Russians know someone personally that has been killed or severely wounded in the war...

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago)

I heard a while ago that a very well connected person (the sort of person that doesn't need to work and could spend all their free time maintaining family relations and friendships) would really only be able to maintain family relations and friendships with about two hundred people. The sort of people that say "I have 1000 friends on Facebook" are talking complete bollocks, there's a huge difference between a relationship/friendship and an acquaintance that you haven't talked to for fifteen years. The average person truly knows many less people than this, usually in the low dozens.

Using your figures and assuming that these relationships are 50/50 male/female, even these very well connected people would statistically still know less than one injured soldier and have less than a 1/3 chance of personally knowing someone that was killed.

I know this comment assumes and extrapolates quite a bit and the idea is somewhat of a tangent from the original comment, but I think it's quite interesting.