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[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org -2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I think its quite obvious that the people I'm advising to get out and take action are the people who... aren't? I'm well aware that action is being taken and that it is growing in numbers, but more needs to be done.

That aside, how does voting third party or abstaining from voting affect change against the issues you've highlighted above? Because I don't disagree with the issues you've raised.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

How exactly does "picketing, protesting, demonstrating, taking action, making noise" affect change against those issues, when the Democrats will just ignore you and get your vote anyway?

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 0 points 2 hours ago

You don't think you can affect change outside of your vote?

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm really wondering if next election cycle we're gonna hear people say "we've got to vote them in first then pull them left" again. It was a notably absent phrase this past election. Biden most certainly did not move left from his "Fundamentally nothing will change." platform.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Well, I was reliably told by ten million Vote Blue No Matter Who people that there wouldn't be another elections if Trump won, so I guess we'll just never know...

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

...and those people call me defeatist. Sheesh!