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The French government's decision to ban children from wearing the abaya, the loose-fitting, full-length robes worn by some Muslim women, in state-run schools drew applause on Monday from the right, but also criticism.

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[–] Takapapatapaka@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The main problem with this subject is that the abaya is not a religious clothing strictly speaking. It is not enforced by any muslim sacred text, a lot of muslim women do not wear it, whereas non-muslim women wear it. It is rather typical from the arabic culture than from the muslim religion (it originated from bedouin culture in the first place).

Here in France people are mad about secularism because of an old hate of Christian Church, but nowadays it is rather used to discriminate jews and muslims. (At school, yarmulke and headscarf are banned, but christian crosses are allowed if they're not too big. Every day i saw people in school with christian crosses around the neck or as earrings, and no one bothered them, while they were harassing girls with a headscarf.)

Imo here the government is just creating a new debate on a stupid question, just to scare people about muslims and give hard right politicians a bone to chew, as they always do. While everyone talks and is afraid about what teenagers could wear, people talk less about the other laws they are passing, for having more control over Internet or whatever they want.

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah this is exactly what is happening. Use this as a talking point while the country rots from the inside thanks to Macron's antisocial and ecocidal policies.

[–] bobman@unilem.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. Make the masses squabble over social issues while the wealthy fucks them with monetary ones.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bread and circus, my friend, bread and circus.

Although I'm not feeling so hot on the bread availability in the near future.

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 3 points 1 year ago

"Let them have brioche" as they said.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

Imo here the government is just creating a new debate on a stupid question, just to scare people about muslims and give hard right politicians a bone to chew

Good take, even I got riled up into a discussion on this, lately. It's rather divisive and therefore a good tool to get people further apart, instead of working together..

[–] bobman@unilem.org 4 points 1 year ago

"I don't like this thing so therefore neither should anyone else."

It's really the default mentality for the vast majority of people I come across these days.