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[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think using Apple products involves paying money to a company who actively hurts you and limits your rights. That you cannot install software developed by an orbganization that accepts donations is pretty insane.

I'm not much of an absolutist. One can only do so much. But Apple is putting unreasonable constraints on consumers, and it should not be tolerated.

[–] rudyharrelson@lemmy.radio 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think using Apple products involves paying money to a company who actively hurts you and limits your rights

Vendor lock-in and walled gardens aren't an Apple-specific problem, though. I'm not saying Apple doesn't have problems that they are particularly bad for, just that "paying money to a company who actively hurts you and limits your rights" isn't unique enough to Apple for me to consider someone not "walking the walk" for buying their products. Most mainstream phone brands have locked bootloaders that limit your rights to affect the hardware you purchased, but I'm not going to suggest someone isn't "walking the walk" with regard to their consumer rights for owning one.

I’m not much of an absolutist. One can only do so much. But Apple is putting unreasonable constraints on consumers, and it should not be tolerated.

I agree they're putting unreasonable constraints on consumers. I do not agree with labelling those who do tolerate it as not caring about their rights or not "walking the walk" when everyone has different, if arbitrary, desires, goals, and limitations that are unique to them.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 1 points 2 weeks ago

I don't judge them too hard. Much like Twitter users I think they are blndly using a product that has gotten gradually worse. Much like Twitter users I think they need to realise at some point. But I understand that it's difficult, and much like Twitter's social graph, Apple's network of services keep people captive.

And yes, there are huge problems in the Android camp as well. I sympathize with users who think all alternatives are bad, but I think we need to realize some are worse than others.

Also worth noting I don't think anyone should buy a new phone over this. Whoever has an iPhone should keep using it until they can't. But if they care, they should get something else after.