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Edit: I wanted to apologize after reading some of the comments. You raise some legitimate points, I realize that there is a subtle malthusian element to this chart and some of you feel like a burden already. Furthermore, you raise a good point about corporate pollution, oil companies, and how their footprint is much greater than average plebs like us.

That's 100% valid and I don't disagree with you at all. My "compromise" I guess would be that continue to apply pressure and protest against large corporations, but in terms of ourselves, just pick a few things you can cut down on yourself, it does not have to be everything on this list.

For example, I really prefer having animal products in my diet, but I am willing to live in a small apartment , car-free, and not go on vacation much in my adulthood. In the same way, you guys can pick what you are comfortable with in reducing and what you do not want to compromise on.

All of us have different standards of living and we are flexible on some things, and some things we are not flexible. That is alright, just consider changing what you are comfortable with, but please do not think you are a burden. Your presence and your life is valuable to me. I don't like to demoralize people.

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[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Furthermore, this creates a feeling that some actions are nearly meaningless.

They are.

There's very good reason that private jets for example aren't on there, never mind the industrial stuff - they would make the points we see here completely invisible by comparison.

Some may say I am childless so I can fly 3 times a year and have a lower impact than this family with two kids.

both would have insignificant impact in the grand scheme of things.

This is just more shifting responsibility to those who aren't by those who are, to ensure they can continue undisturbed.

[–] CthulhuDreamer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You cannot just put aside your personal responsibility just by pointing a finger at someone who's causing more pollution.

Yes, private jets are very bad and should be banned. Yes, corporations are major players in pollution and should be heavily regulated. Yes, there is a ton of rich people each causing more pollution than entire cities.

Meanwhile, I can still try to introduce more vegetarian meals to my diet.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why? If we eliminate fossil fuels, private automobiles for commuting, and densify our population then anyone who wants to eat meat can without issue.

[–] CthulhuDreamer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh, I didn't realize that fossil fuels can be eliminated that easily! Silly me.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile I can still try to introduce more vegetarian meals to my diet.

Again - solely in service of your own ego, they still killed the same amount of animals that day.

It's how capitalism works, they're happy to throw the dead animals away, you've still spent your money in their supermarkets (which is perfectly fine, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism because they've given you no choice), and haven't made a dent to the actual problem or moved even a nanometre closer to solving it.