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I said something along the lines of:

"Wow, I haven't had a reason to smile ear to ear in a while."

Along with

"Nah, the more dead ~~corpos~~ dragons, the better."

In response to some liberal going off about how violence is never the solution, not mentioning how this murdered dipshit has personally overseen a system that perpetuates harm, suffering and death (violence) in the name of profit.

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Good ole' civility clause.

Whats the paradox of tolerance?

.world mods have never heard of it I guess.

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[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

BTW: יהוה‎, aka YHYW, aka Yahweh's original name is EL. He's a Canaanite god of War and Death.

The word "EL" was just a label, like the word "god" itself (which literally means "creator"), and not a name. It meant "mighty one" or "strong one".

For example, phrases translated as "God Almighty" is El Shad-dai.

When angels are referred to as the "sons of God" the original Hebrew is beneh' ha-Elo-him.

Elo-him is also used to refer to other gods, and even human judges in Israel.

There are many more examples of the etymology, but "EL" is not always referring to the God referred to by the tetragrammaton. And it never refers to the Hebrew/Christian God in it's singular isolated form. It always has a qualifier, like "God Almighty" (El Shad-dai).

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The main difference being that the other Canaanite gods didn't all have the EL prefix, in fact, he was the only one that had that prefix, and denominated him as the specific god of Death and War.

You can attempt to claim that isn't true, many biblical and judeaic scholars have attempted to claim the same thing. The archeological evidence doesn't support your claim

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

That doesn't change linguistics. As I mentioned, there are examples in the Bible of other things, including humans, that were referred to as El.

Another example is Ba'al. Ba'al was both a generic word for pagan gods as well as one specific god. But that doesn't mean so the various pagan gods were the same.

You also missed my point about the qualifier. The fact that the Canaanite god of death and war had no qualifier denotes a difference. The Hebrew/Christian God whose name is given as Jehovah in many translation, always has a qualifier with the word EL. Specifically qualifies like "God Almighty", Most High (el'yohn), and never appears in isolated form except when referring to others.

The word EL even makes up many biblical names like Dani'el (God is my judge), El'isha (God is salvation), and Micha'el (Who is like God?).

The fact that there was a Canaanite god whose name was just "god" means and proves nothing, other than if there ever was a name attributed to that god it was lost to time.

[–] Tristus@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

El means "the" as far as I know. As he is "the one" and it is not part of the name, it is the title, basically it is not "a(ny) god" its "the god". At least it was explained so to me from my bro, who "speaks" the old Hebrew. But I don't know why it is the discussion here. Isn't there better places to discuss etymology where there are people who speak the language?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

As far as I am aware, EL didn't mean "the" in Canaanite society or language. That happened later with the other tribes of the Canaanites forming completely different civilizations.