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[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes so is capital punishment, wars and just like those this is also justified. He was judged by millions of his victims and his peers and executed.

[–] belastend@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean it was murder. Premeditated, planned etc.

But he murdered the right person :)

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes so is capital punishment.

[–] belastend@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Absolutely but in extremes of cases maybe it is justified.

He was a mass murderer so in this case IMHO it is justified.

[–] belastend@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was necessary, because he was not going to see punishment otherwise.

In a just society, he'd be in jail forever. Once again, Fuck the Capital Punishment, even in extreme Cases.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Put him in jail forever and make him pay for his confinement. I don't think he should b a burden on the people he exploited.

[–] belastend@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago

I'd rather have him redistribute his fortunes to the relatives of victims. Making prisoners pay for their stay feels reaaaaally icky to me.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think capital punishment (murdering a helpless person in custody) is ever justified. It's just cruelty for the sake of cruelty.

What we have here could be an act of societal self-defense, where the target was in the process of actively harming millions of people, and the legal system wasn't doing anything to stop it. Whether or not it was self-defense or just a pre-paid hit for some other reason I can't say, and neither can I judge whether it was justified or not. I just think it's categorically different from capital punishment.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Capital punishment is state sanctioned, that is the only difference in my eyes.

I can think of some cases where I would rather spend money on something better than housing criminals and just end their life.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The notion that prison is only for "housing criminals" is just wrong, and leads to the fucked up legal system you see in the US. Its primary purpose should be reforming someone to become a better person, drop their old ways and rejoin society. The percentage of people who can't be reformed is vanishingly small if you do it right. And even in those cases, murdering someone just because they require resources to live is wrong. They are still human beings, however fucked up their actions, and deserve life and dignity simply because of that.

Capital punishment is state sanctioned, that is the only difference in my eyes.

No, the main difference is the active and actual threat the person poses. When they are isolated in prison already, they do not pose any further threat.

[–] belastend@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago

Hooray, we are back to killing people for economic reasons!