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I said something along the lines of:
"Wow, I haven't had a reason to smile ear to ear in a while."
Along with
"Nah, the more dead ~~corpos~~ dragons, the better."
In response to some liberal going off about how violence is never the solution, not mentioning how this murdered dipshit has personally overseen a system that perpetuates harm, suffering and death (violence) in the name of profit.
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Good ole' civility clause.
Whats the paradox of tolerance?
.world mods have never heard of it I guess.
100% agree, this is a propaganda tactic used constantly by politicians and the rich and powerful. For example, if one were to broaden the definition of "illegal immigrant" to include more people, then use that definition to incite racism and mass deportation, I would consider that rhetoric a form of violence.
Would a military commander at war be considered non-violent because they only order subordinates to shoot but don't do the shooting themselves? Is the president ordering a nuke non-violent because they don't drop the bomb themselves?
Now, what if someone were to order the denial of life-saving medical care to thousands of civilians that have already paid for it?
When did I say we can't take action against violence, or that violent actions don't sometimes call for violent responses?
That's the joke. If you define violence as broadly as you have then you end up in an ethical trap that has only one exit; violence is moral and I should use it to protect my values before it is used on me.
I simply didn't highlight the exit in my previous comment. But I can see from yours that you've already decided this and decided this excuses people from following any rules about not propagating violence.
na your just committing the absurdist logical fallacy. violence absolutely can be ethical and we're rapid approaching that state in the US.
There's large differences between violence being immoral, having qualified exceptions, and being moral. Most people are in the middle. Every really shitty period of time, like when commoners were being executed en masse in the French Revolution, lives in the violence is moral category. I don't know about you but I'd like to avoid living in a time where my neighbor can report me to the secret police and I get sent to the gulag, or where educated people are rounded up and shot because they "can't be trusted".
That's where celebrating mob violence leads, on the left and right.
uh huh. no one is talking about murdering civvies. we're discussing good trimming the ol' bourgeois stock as its become sick and a danger to us. its good that you're trying to contextualize situations. now all you need to do is contextualize the what people are actually saying vs. what you think they're saying.
Now well, if you are in the bourgeois class. might want to start getting your house in order. start punishing your bad actors appropriately etc.
That's the problem, whenever this happens the definition of "enemy" becomes extremely malleable. And suddenly it's just whoever the mob doesn't like. No matter what class they belong to. The French Revolution killed far more commoners in the Reign of Terror than it did rich folks.
So what you're positively drooling over is just as horrendous as a secret police disappearing enemies of the state.
yes, we all know this. you're not some special snowflake with extra special insights. maybe you should take your reasoning and explain it to the people who are about to get fucked because they're assholes and people are sick of them eh?
Then can we please stop barreling down the road to mob violence?
Nope, thats not how it works. enjoy the ride.
I'm hearing that you believe violence is never moral, correct? Is Ukraine amoral to use violence to stop Russia's invasion?
I never said that so I don't know why you would believe that.