this post was submitted on 28 Aug 2023
110 points (98.2% liked)

Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.

5229 readers
513 users here now

Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

Recommended actions to cut greenhouse gas emissions in the near future:

Anti-science, inactivism, and unsupported conspiracy theories are not ok here.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
silence7@slrpnk.net
110
The climate appeasers are leading us towards catastrophe (www.prospectmagazine.co.uk)
submitted 1 year ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/climate@slrpnk.net
5 comments fedilink hide all child comments
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Obviously it isn't "nature" nor is that implied by the article.

The climate catastrophe is human-made and the people primarily causing it are waging a kind of war against everyone else. Saying that humans are part of nature in that context is very bad faith arguing.

[–] sinkingship@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, that could have been written. That there are some people who are readily throw humanity into the biggest crisis for their own profit.

The situation is very dire. There is hardly done anything to improve the situation and there are people who misinform and spread doubt. Scientists and activists get ridiculed and attacked.

That all can be written. I just don't find the comparison to pre WW2 very matching.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

The article is about the apologists that are maybe conscripts but not the main perpetrators. The kind of people that get upset about climate activists blocking roads and the politicians claiming that they can't do anything because of such people. The analogy to British apologists and foot-draggers in the lead up to WW2 is not totally unreasonable IMHO.