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Despite Microsoft's push to get customers onto Windows 11, growth in the market share of the software giant's latest operating system has stalled, while Windows 10 has made modest gains, according to fresh figures from Statcounter.

This is not the news Microsoft wanted to hear. After half a year of growth, the line for Windows 11 global desktop market share has taken a slight downturn, according to the website usage monitor, going from 35.6 percent in October to 34.9 percent in November. Windows 10, on the other hand, managed to grow its share of that market by just under a percentage point to 61.8 percent.

The dip in usage comes just as Microsoft has been forcing full-screen ads onto the machines of customers running Windows 10 to encourage them to upgrade. The stats also revealed a small drop in the market share of its Edge browser, despite relentlessly plugging the application in the operating system.

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[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Just adding that 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC is also super solid and great for gaming, ~~no bullshit installed, just Edge + Defender~~. I disable Edge- instead of uninstalling- with a tool that just breaks it, since Edge always gets installed again eventually.

I got it from that same site, been problem free for months now. I only went with 11since my 5800X3D is still fairly new.

Edit: Fine, no bullshit other than Edge + Defender.

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

no bullshit installed

Edge

Pick one

[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Edge isn't that bad. You need something to download Firefox with.

The bullshit is when every windows link insists on opening in edge rather then your default browser.

[–] IntangibleSloth@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

winget install Mozilla.Firefox

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Winget makes fresh Windows installs much less painful!

Just incase it helps anyone: For the 11 IoT LTSC, to use winget you first have to install 2 packages via power shell. First: VCLibs.x64.14.00.Desktop.appx Then: DesktopAppInstaller_********.msixbundle

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

You need something to download Firefox with.

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Does this version of Windows 11 feel as snappy as normal Windows 10? And do the fans randomly flare up like on my installation of normal Windows 11?

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Maybe it’s all in my head, but I tried it a while back and it felt less snappy than clean windows 10 but more snappy than stock windows 11. It also retains a lot of the annoyances of stock windows 11.

Unfortunately I can’t use it because I have a WMR VR headset and it’s unsupported on the IoT and LTSC.

There’s a YouTube channel called memories tech tips and he’s developing a script that you can add to your ISO that will have a similar effect to the LTSC. That in combination with Chris Titus techs ultimate windows utility after first boot makes setting things up much easier.

[–] Kyouki@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This sounds nice, thanks for that information.

How do you know stuff is particularly "unsupported" on a same os but different build? Other then errors of course?

In my head it is the same os just different blend so wonder why it wouldnt work. Reckon maybe some missing system components. Though can copy those over?

Anyway was curious if you knew! Thanks

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

It’s basically just Microsoft being shit heads on their development of the Windows Mixed reality drivers that creates that specific edge case. Hopefully the open source monado drivers will be a good replacement eventually. Most everything else should work fine.

I only know because I had windows 10 LTSC when I bought my headset and tried to get it working and found reddit threads with the same issue. I tested the windows 11 IoT when it came out because I hoped it would support my headset then I found out they are dropping support next year.

There needs to be a class action lawsuit about this to either open-source the drivers or to refund all those who purchased WMR devices.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unsupported hardware

Arcane incantations to get your system to look like a system

Still bloated

At this point, I’m assuming you don’t like yourself very much.

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Well, I would like to switch to Linux but my VR headset is holding me back. Linux does have its own annoyances. I would probably still have to virtualize windows because of productivity software I need.

I also use an engineering sample CPU so uhhh… I’ve learned to stop worrying and love the jank.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Fair enough. You can keep your partition and run your VM from there, btw.

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

It feels snappy enough to me. I dunno about fans though, as I set mine in UEFI/BIOS.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, when my Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC (non-IoT) runs out in 2027 it will be the last Windows version I ever use.