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[–] gsfraley@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Give them a nuke back. Them relinquishing theirs assuming good faith by the Russians is half the reason this mess started. If they get one back it makes a push for total control of Ukraine an existential risk for Russia.

Edit: Before someone points it out, yes I'm being wildly naive, let me dream about a good outcome a little.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Granted.

They don't have to actually get the nuke back.

Everyone just has to think they did. The idea is just as much a weapon as the bomb itself.

The old squirt-gun pistol routine, lol.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I was a grunt not a rocket scientist so serious question: do we have missiles they can load in the old Soviet silos or would it have to be a SCUD situation?

Either way, giving Kyiv a giant middle finger to wave at Moscow on the way out would be an epic mic drop moment for Biden.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The thing about nukes, they don't work by themselves. There needs to be a delivery system, and that's basically a discount space industry, there should be the whole detection-response infrastructure. And if that's on the table, I'm pretty sure Ukraine will be better off recieving all that in money, conventional arms, and troops.