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Wayland and audio is fixed, but only on the canary branch for the moment, this isnt lazy either, they changed the whole screenshare flow to suit linux's permission prompts

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[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You give them too much credit. It's just shitty, that's it.

Discord is pretty much broken on all platform. It always was. There's just no real alternative unfortunately.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 11 points 3 weeks ago

"Don't attribute to malice what is explained by incompetence"

[–] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If Twitter is any indication, Discord would have to fuck up big, and for a long time for people to switch.

[–] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago

I agree, but working on an alternative an cultivating it could be a good start. Look at mastodon or lemmy.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is an alternative people have used before discord came, it is called teamspeak. Is still around as well, but works more like a federated system since everyone has to set up and host their own server for people to use.

[–] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Teamspeak is no alternative to discord. Sorry. Also its not even open source, is it?

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Discord isnt open source either tho so how does that matter for the comparison?

And while yes it is a little outdated, I do recall the time before discord when people would have their own teamspeak server instead, which worked very similar to the fediverse.

You had the client and could connect to any server you had the credentials to, which each were owned and hosted by various people or groups each with their own rules and code of conduct.

[–] treverflume@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

Mumble is open source.

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm all for it tho I have no idea how to grab the folk's attention

[–] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

We would have to sit down and actually think what an opensource solution can achieve and how it gets traction. Also from the get go it should be clear that there will be no feature parity between it and discord. If it was me, I would cut out the whole chatroom functionality, leave private messaging in, use threaded conversations as a standard and but a decent videocall system on top. But this would be my version of it, other people have other needs.

For the video call system you would not have to reinvent the wheel, use something existing like Jitsi (?) or alternatives. Then you would

Maybe the best bet is to look at matrix and wrench out the chatroom focus and replace it with threads?

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

best alternative would be a forum + voice calls + dms IMO

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

why cut chatroom functionality? Servers are the main reason people use discord?

[–] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not in my bubble, chats create insurmountable loads of noise. By focusing on threads you get the discussion much more focused and streamlined. Example: Most of my discords are ttrpg related, where with the usage of bots games are scheduled. Or where discussion are happening around certain ttrpg systems.

I agree that a lot of discord servers focus on chat rooms. But you could retain that by simply having 1-2 chatrooms per server and structure/direct conversations to dedicated threads/voice chats instead.

Again this is just MY view. I am totally aware that other people, use it differently.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

that's a totally fair view, and the people at matrix seem to agree because it has threading, seems to be the kind you like, too

[–] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

No, matrix is still very focused on chat room sadly and for the video conferencing you need to use jitsi as far as I am aware, at least thats how we've set it up at work. The thread function in discord is much better actually.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

oh, also matrix just added proper e2ee video conferencing that doesnt use jitsi, its a native feature

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

huh, ive used both, how is the discord implementation better? They seem the same to me.

[–] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean I am not sure, but in matrix you can just "reply" to a comment in a chat room and therefore create a thread? In discord you can have whole "chatrooms" be transfered to discussion only with threads. I am not sure about the terminology but it looks very different to me. Basically, you can set Discord up like a community board etc.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

ooh, you're talking about that, i see. Yeah matrix doesnt have that