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[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Even more motivation for Trump to abolish term limits.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

He can't himself since it's spelled out in the constitution in the 22nd amendment.

So tl;dr it would need 3/4 of the states to repeal that. More detail than that, but that's what it boils down to.

[–] invalid_name@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

he can't

Why not? He couldn't steal an election attemot a violent coup or bankrupt a casino either.

Who's gonna stop him?

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Who’s gonna stop him?

  1. All the states who are blue and/or prefer to not have a bumbling 82 year old wannabe dictator as president for a 3rd term.
  2. All the congress critters not living in MAGA-stan who value getting re-elected.
[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, they've all done a bang-up job over the last four years.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yeah, they’ve all done a bang-up job over the last four years.

That's a bit like saying because you found a hair in your soup - which you found bland and overpriced - that you want a shit sandwich instead.

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 57 minutes ago

I didn't say I wanted the shit sandwich. I'm saying I don't trust them to keep the shit sandwich away from my plate.

[–] invalid_name@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
  1. How? Why?

  2. Do you not remember last time? And why do you think losing an election will keep a loyalist out of power?

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

1a. How: The law. Literally Trump "can't" just say "I'm going to run again". The constitution forbids it. Now I'm not saying that will stop all the states from putting him on the ballot, but it will stop many, and that's enough to get any sane Republican screaming for an alternative. 1b. Why: The law. Republicans know perfectly well Trump is a shit-show, but they lacked the courage to say no to a 2nd term. A third term puts them into not-needing-a-spine-to-say-no territory. Many desperately want to get rid of him and that is their safe opportunity. 2. Of course I do. I also remember the attempted coup failed miserably. And anyway that is quite different from running in the primary.

[–] invalid_name@lemm.ee 1 points 23 minutes ago* (last edited 21 minutes ago)

1a the law, sane republicans

The Law Is Not A Magic Spell. It's a set of agreements enforced by violence. All the enforcers are fanatical fascists. And the last sane republican I know of died in February 2012. He hadn't voted for president this century. If those were still a thing; we wouldnt be in this position.

1b: the law, sane republicans

So, still not a magic spell. I'm afraid you dont know how cultists, social conformity, or sunk costs work. They're going to have endorsed the horrible things that happen here. They can't accept culpability for that. You know what they say;

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand; Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Or something.

2

The coup failed because hisbpeople were profoundly incompetent and mostly senile. You'll notice the police and military dispatchers we suspiciously slow that day. It was just the poor rubes already on the ground there responding to this shit. The courts largely declined to ounish abuobe involved; all thd s um eho organized it got off clean, and even the worst of the nazis on the ground got milder sentences than any ive seen for juat being near someone who broke a window in 2020. What does any of this have to do with primaries? Why would they hold a primary?

[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I really hope that's the case. But if there's one thing I've learnt, it's that Trump can seemingly do whatever the fuck he wants.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world -1 points 8 hours ago

I really hope that’s the case

It is. It's in the constitution and barring civil war and a military take over of the government that amendment is not going away.

But if there’s one thing I’ve learnt, it’s that Trump can seemingly do whatever the fuck he wants.

Actually he can't. He most definitely can bloviate and spew whatever the fuck he wants, but when it comes to actually doing I think his track record is quite poor. For the most part he counts on toadies to fall in line and do his bidding, mainly so they can take the blame if it goes south. That he will be term limited is, IMO, the saving grace for those useful idiots - they know they can get rid of him and they only need to kiss his ass another 4 years.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Oh that? That meant consecutive terms. Trump can totally be president again in 2028. Just ask SCOTUS.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You are speculating that SCOTUS will let some challenge slide. But it's the constitution and SCOTUS doesn't get to change what it says just because they are corrupt.

"No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice"

Seems pretty crystal clear.

[–] invalid_name@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Laws are not magic spells, and all the people who enforce them are his creatures.

Just because we use the same rules for our violently enforced traditions of hierarchy and the physical constants of reality does not mean they're actually the same thing.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Laws are not magic spells, and all the people who enforce them are his creatures.

Demonstrably not.

Just because we use the same rules for our violently enforced traditions of hierarchy and the physical constants of reality does not mean they’re actually the same thing.

You are either 14 and very profound or a newly-minted graduate student. 'Cause I have no idea what you are trying to say.

[–] invalid_name@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

He cannot create something from nothing. He cannot act without an equal and opposite reaction. He cannot exceed the ideal speed of unimpeded light. He cannot be smaller than the Planck length. Try as he might; it simply cannot be done.

A person has to actively to stop him from doing all the rape murder and genocide his shitty little chest void desires. Nobody has. Are you going to?

I'm saying calling both these categories 'laws' is misleading.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I’m saying calling both these categories ‘laws’ is misleading.

Undergrad?

[–] invalid_name@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Are you going to engage with my ideas, or try to discredit me by... Saying I'm getting an education?

I'm confused as to what your argument is here. My best guess is that what I said resonated with you enough to make you uncomfortable, and youre trying to discredit me so you dont have to think about it.

And I get that. I get trying to stay comfortable, I get trying to cling to what you have and what's worked to keep it in the past, but we no longer have that luxury. Do not rely on the 'law' to protect you. Start looking at alternatives. I know its scary, I know its new, and I know it might require change, but its what we need to get through this. Maybe what you find will end up enriching you long term, if you survive. Change isn't always bad.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] invalid_name@lemm.ee 1 points 42 minutes ago

Again, why are you replying ic not to engage with what I'm saying? You're just trying to insult(?) me so you don't have to, but you could have just clicked past my reply. That shows either my previous content was correct, or you're really profoundly lonely and are using this platform in leiu of human intimacy. No judgement if it's that second one; shit can be pretty grim out there.