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Anti-NATO protesters gathered again in Montreal on Saturday to demand Canada withdraw from the alliance, a day after a demonstration organized by different groups resulted in arrests, burned cars and shattered windows.

the purpose of the protest was to demonstrate against what he called NATO’s “complicity with Israel’s military while it’s conducting its genocide in Gaza, … war crimes in Lebanon, Syria” and that “it’s enforcing illegal occupation of Palestinian territories.”

However, Allard rejected accusations of antisemitism. He said the protests were against the actions of the state of Israel and not Jewish people, adding that earlier this week the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

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[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You left off the "in Europe" part.

NATO and the USA basically destroyed Afghanistan and left all of the women of in the hands of barbarians

NATO assisted with the initial invasion. The war aims and rules of engagement were poorly thought out, as one would expect of G W Bush. The two choices that made sense were to kill off Al-Qaida and leave, or stay a bit longer and kill every single member of the Taliban, in both Afghanistan and in Pakistan (where they were formed by the Pakistani ISI, and from whom they continue to receive shelter and material support). The US did neither, NATO members faded away after the initial engagement, and the US attempted to stabilize the situation without addressing the root problem. If anyone had asked me, the first option would have been my choice: kill as many jihadis as possible, take out AQ leadership if we can, then go home.

And it was Donald Trump who surrendered the Afghan people, including the women, into the hands of the Taliban, releasing all the Taliban prisoners and getting nothing in return.

But I don't believe that you're really all that torn up about the fate of Afghan women. It just feeds your anti-NATO narrative.

And again, NATO isn’t doing shit in Ukraine.

Why would they be? Ukraine is not a NATO country, so the mutual-defense treaty has not been triggered. I suspect you'd be complaining even more if, in response to Putin's invasion of Ukraine, NATO waded in and we now found ourselves in a war the likes of which hasn't been seen since WW2: possibly worse.

On the other hand, several NATO member countries are supplying and supporting Ukraine.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 hours ago

You left off the “in Europe” part.

There is no in Europe in the original comment. "No was since ww2 since 80 years old".

If anyone had asked me, the first option would have been my choice.

Yeah, no one asked you and the US stayed there for 20 years.

And it was Donald Trump who surrendered the Afghan people,

Nah it was Biden lol. Pretty much he first thing he did when he got elected. Jeez do you even have wikipedia?

But I don’t believe that you’re really all that torn up about the fate of Afghan women.

Fuck off, don't try to think for me. It's not because YOU don't care that nobody does.

It just feeds your anti-NATO narrative.

Yeah, I'm anti-NATO lol, and this is one of the reason. Why dont you pro-nato give me some fucking example of what good this organization? Wanna talk about Lybia, how sudden

Why would they be? Ukraine is not a NATO country.

Exactly. So Putin can fuck up the entire planet, NATO wont do shit as long as none of the members are directly attacked. Great organization.

Now do you want to talk about Libya? How Gaddafi was best friend with all the NATO leaders until one day they changed their mind, pushed him away, and send financial sharks to "rebuild" the country.

Again, I suspect this NATO enthusiasm is a US thing since I have never met someone from the left who was cheering for an imperialist military organization that's only there to serves the economic interest of the west.