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[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Knowing basically nothing about anything that's relevant here, so pardon any ignorance, but it does sound to me like anything that moves the US towards a true multi-party system would be a pretty fundamental change?

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

To our democracy, sure, but not to our economic system. As long as our economic system is capitalist our democracy will always be beholden to the ultra rich, even if it is multi-party. Campaign finance reform is good, but nowhere near enough to eliminate the influence of capital on the political process.

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not so sure. I'm from a multi-party democracy, and while the ultra-rich (or, well, mega-rich I suppose - the US's ultra-rich are at a different level I think) certainly have their interests catered to, I feel like on balance the scales are tipped to their benefit to a way smaller extent, largely thanks to the multi-party system.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What country? Virtually every liberal democracy is currently experiencing a far-right resurgence right now, with similar themes of austerity and lower taxes on the rich. Multiparty democracies, especially those with parliamentary systems, have greater immunity, but they're all suffering from the same disease because they have the same foundational flaws.

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

In the EU, but my point is that the scale is way different. I'm in the Netherlands, and the far-right resurgence here is still being kept in check to some extent by the other parties. I shudder to think what would happen if they could do what they want just because they're the largest, but they can't.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago

The Netherlands has extra immunity beyond just the political system by way of a strong social safety net as well. Fascism thrives on poverty and resentment. But keep in mind, the Netherlands is practically the perfect example of social democracy and yet still the far-right is able to find a foothold to power. The Netherlands does a great job treating the symptoms of capitalism, but the foundations can still rot.