Democracies grant immense power to the electorate. Including the power of suicide. Democratic systems are inherently capable of ending themselves because ultimately their survival depends on enough people believing in the system and holding the integrity of the system to be more important than any particular democratic outcome. That is lost in the US. Most voters don't care.

That truth alone makes a decent argument for US being in decline. It will take a long time , but it's beginning.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 points 14 hours ago

Corrupt democracies should be suicided. Electoral college, first past the post, gerrymandering, partisant suprene court, gridlocked house and senate, bankers running money, wallstreet in charge of the commons, and that's just for starters

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US isn't a democracy though, it is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, where every election we get to select which group of oppressors will wield state power against us until the next one.

Also decline is caused by anticolonial resistance and the logic of capitalism breaking down. I would suggest reading Lenin's "imperialism" and Fanon's "wretched of the earth"

[+] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca -8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US isn’t a democracy though, it is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, where every election we get to select which group of oppressors will wield state power against us until the next one.

Yes that truly one of the opinions of all time.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a better opinion than "US in decline because TOO MUCH democracy".

Lmao. You just witnessed this last election Dems suing third parties to stop them from running, Dems not even pretending to hold a primary, republicans saying its the last election ever.

But yeah, dude, you're bang on the money. Less democracy is what's gonna solve it.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 0 points 23 hours ago

It's a better opinion than "US in decline because TOO MUCH democracy".

Literally no one said that. Read better. It's not the amount of democracy that was the problem, it was the actual choices made.

Lmao. You just witnessed this last election Dems suing third parties to stop them from running, Dems not even pretending to hold a primary, republicans saying its the last election ever.

What did the voters who actually voted for Trump choose?