However, I oftentimes find myself doom scrolling through reddit, just because of some nonsense BS propaganda, ads, etc .., snuck inbetween of the community posts I'm actually interested in.

How can we convince the people over there to move away?

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[–] FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz 110 points 3 days ago (20 children)

I'm just sick of Reddit.

How can we convince the people over there to move away?

I see things like this all the time on the fediverse. There's this sentiment that reddit sucks and it's nothing but bots and shithousery, but for some people they still want that crowd to migrate here.

I think Lemmy needs to let go of the idea of the "good" parts of reddit transferring here and everyone miraculously behaving differently, because it just isn't going to happen. The people left on reddit are there because that's the experience they want. Trying to import them en masse to Lemmy again is just going to bring more irritation and frustration IMO.

I think Lemmy would be better served working to improve and develop the communities they already have through users that are already here. Find ways to make your interests appealing to others. Be active in ways and places you usually wouldn't, and Lemmy will grow up around us organically. None of these social media giants have anything of substance to offer their huge user bases besides the niche communities you guys are missing, and that's why people spend so much time doomscrolling.

What we are missing is that someone on Reddit took the time to get these communities going too. Reddit wasn't an instant success, it took the efforts of the early membership to drive engagement and user growth. Lemmy is obsessed with the idea of short cutting this step to steal members from other networks, and that's silly.

No one is going to leave a well designed botnet social media for a black hole called the fediverse. In order to gain more meaningful membership we must first prove that Lemmy is worth overcoming the barriers to enter and engage with the people that are already here. Once the rest of the internet finds out we're cool, they'll show up.

[–] Sonor@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (5 children)

For me - and i am new - the whole point of lemmy is less people, less content to scroll, and more quality. If lemmy was reddit, i would leave lemmy too

[–] FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There's nothing wrong with this approach either but I'd remind you and anyone else seeking this experience that Lemmy is infinitely more customizable for this than reddit ever was. The ability to block users, communities, instances, etc can be invaluable. Some instances also don't federate with everyone so it's fairly easy to find a smaller space that isn't so busy if the larger instances are too much.

Lemmy gets a lot of shit, and deservedly so at times, but there are already some very handy tools in the kit for curating your feed to your liking.

[–] Sonor@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Ill be frank, i still have no idea how it all actually works. I am wrapping my head around this model still. But thanks for the info! :)

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But some features don't make sense or seem half-assed, like blocking instances at user level, it should also block every user from that instance, but for some weird reason it doesn't, you don't see the post from that instance, but posts on other instances made by those users and comments from users of that instance are still visible... So we are still forced into instance jumping until we find one that aligns with what we deem acceptable... And that could take a while.

Or the fact that Lemmy users talk a lot about privacy but the delete function doesn't really delete the content as it can be easily restored at any moment.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

These are big technical issues IMO, especially considering the large amount of tankies on Lemmy. It doesn't help that many tankies have accounts on LW and other "normal" instances.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago

PieFed, and the Lemmy apps Sync and Connect, can do that. They truly block users from any custom instance of your choice, without having to depend upon an admin (or spin up an instance yourself).

Base Lemmy cannot and a look at the admin practices present on the devs own instance convinces me that it likely never will - it seems simply not a priority for them (and we are on their platform - or rather you are:-).

Nothing is perfect ofc, but it's nice to have choices.

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