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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yes, and any cross is a symbol of white nationalism because they were used by the KKK.

Not every symbol used by racist people is a symbol of racism. You gave the one most extreme example where a symbol was co-opted and can never mean anything else again.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And you gave an example of why dog whistles work, plausible deniability.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honest question, are there examples of this symbol being used by white nationalists regularly?

I’ve done some light googling and looked at more photos of white nationalist rallies than I ever want and I didn’t see this symbol in any of them. Even adl.org doesn’t mention this cross.

there’s specific reference to the Jerusalem Cross here. https://www.mccaininstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/white-supremacy-and-anti-government-groups-read-ahead-materials.pdf The Adl link is to look up other terms in general

    White supremacist anti-Muslim narratives generally refer to Islam as an invading force that isn’t just incompatible with Western society, but is also an active threat to Western society and cultural norms. In this context, white supremacists have used Crusader-themed imagery and rhetoric, like the Jerusalem Cross, the Knights Templar and “Deus Vult,” as dog whistles to promote anti-Muslim hate
[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Like the universal ok symbol. My good that was so stupid.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

Exactly. I had a guy I worked with that used examples of liberals complaining about the OK symbol as an excuse to ignore every awful thing Trump did and said during his 2016 election and while he was in office.

I’m not saying he wouldn’t have done that anyway, but we make it so easy for them to ignore us!