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[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 4 days ago (8 children)

I hate Nick Fuentes and his content, but her story is suspicious. I find it very strange that she took it upon herself to learn where his house is, go there, and try to talk to the guy. If the roles were reversed, a MAGA supporter showing up at a liberal public figure’s home, I think people would interpret it as harassment.

That said, I don’t understand how this was a legal use of pepper spray. If she really only said “hello” and did not try to advance into the house, then I don’t think he could reasonably argue he felt threatened with bodily harm in any way.

That’s an issue for court to decide though. I imagine the truth lies in the full video.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 43 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Learning where his house is would take no effort as he's been so thoroughly doxxed even I saw his address and I'm basically that meme of the old lady peering at the screen through my granny-glasses.

A perfect alpha male, frightened to death at a woman saying "Hello" while he's still in the safety of his house. Compare that to the women who ovary up and keep going while they're being catcalled, or make the potentially life-threatening decision to say either yes or no to a strange man in a bar.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Looking up his address and going there could be premeditation for harassment or harm depending on how the series of events at the door transpired. It doesn’t matter if he is an alpha male or if she is in a wheelchair, it is reasonable to think that a stranger who has come to your home to confront you over internet posts may mean you harm.

That said, I don’t think he was justified in deploying pepper spray without at least verbally ordering her to leave the property. If he did that and she stayed though…then there isn’t going to be much legal defense available to her in many states.

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A stranger looking up your, not publicly displayed, home adress and then showing up at your door, for whatever reason they think they have, is beyond suspicious.

Whatever happened after that is a different matter ofcourse.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But it's ok when Jehovah's Witnesses, Evangelicals, politicians, and whatever other canvassers do it? So does that mean I can legally just pepper spray them?

Important caveat: I'm a white male

Y'know, it's dangerous out there. Maybe you should just start mag dumping through the front door whenever the doorbell rings or a robin farts.

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