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I thought of this in the shower, then deleted it when someone in a discord I asked it to eventually said duh it's Michael Jackson, and another replied Michael Jordan you dumbass ... oof ... but then while deleted it got upvotes somehow so whatever lol

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[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Jackson is a patronymic last name: Jack's son.

Smith is an aptronymic last name: a smith.

So yeah, bang on.

[–] phubarr@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'd love to know why you know these terms. I'm a huge etymology nerd and I eat this stuff up.

This entire thread begs the question, why do some people have a first name for a last name? Is it just a less-clear patronym?

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I too am an etymology geek, I had to look up "aptronym" (I already knew there was a word for it, but couldn't remember it) but already knew "patronym". I can occasionally work out the approximate Latin roots of words and take a stab at what to search for.

Regarding names' positions moving around... that's just people. People name their children all sorts of stupid things that eventually become normal.

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

There are a bunch of aptronymic last names, especially in English culture. The Baker family, the Tanner family, the Shoemaker family etc.

Don't ask about the Dickinsons.