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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (78 children)

Outside of a philosophy discussion, it's not a genuinely good question because it is irrelevant to our daily lives. In any way that matters to society, a woman is a person who says they are a woman. It's that complicated.

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (12 children)

So long as society feels it necessary to provide protections for women, the distinction has real consequences. Drawing a line anywhere is a tradeoff between inclusivity and effectiveness.

Taking the party line "high ground" stance of either conclusive self-determination or dodging the question entirely is why this question is so effective.

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Assuming good faith on the part of those involved, I don't see how inclusivity comes at the cost of effectiveness. Would you care to elaborate?

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gendered bathrooms? It certainly does not require a lot of good faith to come up with this example.

That's a terrible example. Gendered bathrooms would still fulfil their function if anybody could use them regardless of gender, causing no measurable harm to anyone.

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