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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

not being a genocidal expansionist state that feeds terrorism in your neighbours is a good way to start

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hezbollah's beef is religious - they think they'll be denied paradise if they didn't join Hamas' attack

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

doesn't matter for the person who joins the nearest anti-Israel militant group because his child, love ones were blown to bits by Israeli bombs or they were kicked out of their house by Israeli armed settlers

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/

https://web.archive.org/web/20240113063836/https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Seems like you're focused on Hamas here & this is exactly the mindset that makes sure the violence will never end. If Hezbollah hadn't attacked Israel last year, all these people would be alive.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

you mean the civilians who were killed by Israel? Yes they should have been alive no matter what, I agree.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting that the civilians on the Israeli side 'deserved it'?

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, we disagree on that. Civilian deaths on no side can be justified. But yes, whoever does that is a terrorist organization.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Should Israel allow Hezbollah to kill as many civilians as they want, to avoid being called terrorists on the internets?

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Should Israel pursue expansionist and genocidal agendas knowing full well that it will only increase the insurgence of organizations like Hezbollah or Hamas in the region so that they can use these organizations as an excuse to invade the whole region?

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, they shouldn't. But how should they react to their civilians being attacked when they're staying on their side of the border?

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

definitely not by driving civilians who were staying on their side of the border away from their homes

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Should they have somehow forced them to stay while they were bombing Hezbollah positions? How?

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Alright so we are on the same page on Israel bombing civilians' homes. I might also add Israel is bombing so indiscriminately that the age distribution of people killed by Israeli bombings looks exactly like their age demographic.