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Well, Democrats succeeded in expanding the swing state map alright...Mission Accomplished?
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this post was submitted on 09 Nov 2024
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It's not really expanding the swing state map when the reasons those states were closer was because of the people who didn't go out to vote. They're still solidly blue when people actually vote.
2020 was a massive outlier and trying to frame 2024 as a low turnout election is dishonest. 2024 is the second highest turnout of any election in decades and the third highest since 1900(only behind 2020 and 1960). The gap you see floating around is days outdated, even in this comment section people are saying Trump got less votes than last time which isn't true anymore.
Also how do you know some of those people didn't defect? Trump is beating his 2020 numbers despite losing twice as many supporters to COVID, where did the new guys come from? (Especially that latter point, between old age and COVID Trump probably had another 2 million voters in 2020 who are dead now if not more)
I said this earlier and got downvoted. 2024 was literally the perfect storm for Dems between everyone being home and the election coming during an unwinnable set of circumstances for Trump (or arguably any president).
BUT, it's ridiculous to say that Trump's base didn't grow between now and then. In 2024 he got a higher percentage of almost every voter class than he did in 2016 or 2020. Whether or not that's defections or just new voters, I don't know and it's probably too soon to tell, but I've seen things saying that more first-time Gen Zers voted for Trump much higher than predictions.
I really am worried that Dems (the party and the voters) are going to go through a third election cycle without learning anything, bury their head in the sand, and scream "it's just the white, flyover rednecks voting for him."
~~They'll never accept the Italians/Irish, they're still blue, they're still blue!~~ ~~They'll never win the Dixiecrats, they're still blue, they're still blue~~ The Latino Men will ALWAYS vote blue this time we swear