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Thats not strictly true. Most hybrids now use a gas motor to augment the battery since commercially available batteries aren't as convenient.
In all of them that I can think of, the gas motor never provides torque to the wheels, it runs a generator that then runs the electric motor. Same principle as diesel electric locomotives.
Also, western idiots have been allowing the CCP to buy a functional monopoly on rare earth metal mines.
How does that in any way change what I wrote?
Older Hybrids that use a combustion engine to charge the battery, are in fact MORE ICE than electric. They just have an extra step for the power from the combustion engine to reach the wheels. You might as well add an extra gearbox to an ICE car, and call it a gearbox car, because it runs on "gearbox".
Tests here (Denmark) have shown plugin Hybrids on average drive only less than half on Battery, so those too are MORE ICE than hybrid on average.
Of course there are use cases for hybrids, but they are neither purely ICE or Purely EV, they are hybrid for christ sake. That's also the reason they are called Hybrid.
There are degrees of plugin hybrids.
One one hand you have things like the current batch of BMW "hybrids" that are just an underpowered(at least for the highway mountain passes where I am, they're overpowered for city driving) gas car with a token electric motor.
But you also have ones that have a tiny gas motor that can be designed to run exclusively at peak efficiency. Is it ideal, no, ideally it would be 100% electric, but for the logistics we have, they will do for now.
As I stated before, there are use cases for hybrid, but that doesn't make them fully electric cars. Calling a partially electric car electric is nonsense. Which leads to exactly the question of where the line is drawn.