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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 week ago (19 children)

Instead of saying that Harris or the dnc dropped the ball, consider that over half the voting population in the US chose a senile, white, male, racist, felon who increased your taxes unless you were rich and stole classified documents, that is chums with Putin.

Maybe instead of "the dnc dropped the ball" it could be considered that the slight majority of Americans are just racist, sexist, uneducated, short sighted idiots?

No one needed to know much beyond seeing how bad trump has been. There shouldn't have needed to be a "make Harris better" plan. America seen that trump shitbox and still chose him.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's nice to blame voters for parties failing to win elections. That absolves the party of responsibility - "we were right, it was voters who are wrong".

But that won't win an election. And that attitude will gift the mid terms and even 2028 to the republicans.

The DNC fucked up - it backed Biden despite clear signs he was not a good candidate for this election, the primary process who a fig leaf of democracy rather than putting forward the party's best and brightest, it then fought concerns of Biden health and hid the truth, then when he finally stepped down late in the day it arranged a coronation for Harris. And then after behaving undemocratically repeatedly it had the gall to make the election about "saving democracy".

Voters didn't do these things, the DNC did.

Instead of demonising voters and non voters, it's better to ask what should the party have done differently to win them over and what does it need to do to win them over in the mid terms.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It doesn't absolve. If people are acting like it does, then they're wrong and it still is true without absolving. It just points out that people voting for trump is overwhelmingly the problem.

And also, the Democrats ran their failed diet republican strategy. But if they fucked up twice as bad as they did, there's sill no reason to vote trump, and that remains the main issue.

The non-magas have to lock arms and stand together until ranked choice, no electoral college, and no citizens united. That's the front door to the future.

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

The non-magas have to lock arms and stand together

Except not all non-magas want to. You can scream and cry and call names all you want. They just don't show up to the booth. So what should we do instead, because living in the imaginary land of what voters ought to do has gotten us another Trump term.

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