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The movement to swear off men: No sex. No dating. No marriage. No children. (19thnews.org)

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In the hours following former President Donald Trump’s election victory, Google searches related to 4B — a fringe South Korean feminist movement that made a name for itself in the mid to late 2010s — surged in the United States.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This isn't targeted at just the shitty dudes. It's no sex with any dudes period until they get their rights back.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't see the difference. If someone doesn't want to have sex with you, whatever the reason may be, then you accept that decision and move on. The inability to accept that would be a form of misogyny in my books. This may not be what was meant by the comment you responded to, but I interpret as: stop being misogynistic, not because that'll make women want to have sex with you (though it might), but because it's not your place to unilaterally decide who should have sex with you.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I never said it was my place. I gave up on romance years ago so this movement doesn't even affect me. Although I do agree with them in principle. The purpose of my comment was only to correct the person I responded to who was misrepresenting the scope of the protest. They said the movement was specifically targeted at misogynists and it is not. It impacts all men (or at least those seeking a romantic relationship with a woman) regardless of their attitude towards women. There's nothing to interpret about it. Men get nothing until they get their rights back. It's not even really about misogyny.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

To be clear, I mean "you" as in the general you, not you specifically. Didn't mean for it to come off as an attack.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The inability to accept that would be a form of misogyny in my books.

Yes and further, if you (the reader, not the person I'm commenting to) are a man who is insistent women must go have sex with these men so they dont get mad - why don't you go have sex with them? You have holes. It might even be safer for you. Why don't you do it instead? And why haven't you already been doing it if you think it's so effective? Like if we need a sexy olive branch to convert people over to our side, why don't you do it? And if you found that weird and distasteful- forcing yourself to have sex with people you are angry at and don't want to because they are not attractive to you - no shit. That's how we feel, you idiot.