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[–] Revonult@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

I agree it works in most cases it works fine but like "First woman astronaut" feels weird.

I mostly didn't want to be accidentally participating in something shitty.

Edit: or like "fastest woman athlete"

[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I think both kinda sound equally weird because we for a lot of words like astronaut, the astronaut is already assumed to be male unless otherwise indicated. So male astronauts or man astronauts both sound clunky and kinda weird, and the weirdness translates over when you start indicating the astronaut is a woman by saying "woman astronaut" or "female astronaut."

The English language, and historical baggage just kinda fucked us on this one. We used to add 'ess' to the ends of words to indicate gender, but that was dropped outside of the use of waitress or actress for the most part. Not sure why that stopped, but I'm sure it's interesting and I'm going to go look it up later.

[–] ted@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, I remember feeling like it was weird, but both of those sound absolutely fine to me now.

I also would never balk at "female" as an adjective in those cases, nor assume the speaker was being misogynist.