this post was submitted on 08 Nov 2024
30 points (70.3% liked)

Programming

17432 readers
224 users here now

Welcome to the main community in programming.dev! Feel free to post anything relating to programming here!

Cross posting is strongly encouraged in the instance. If you feel your post or another person's post makes sense in another community cross post into it.

Hope you enjoy the instance!

Rules

Rules

  • Follow the programming.dev instance rules
  • Keep content related to programming in some way
  • If you're posting long videos try to add in some form of tldr for those who don't want to watch videos

Wormhole

Follow the wormhole through a path of communities !webdev@programming.dev



founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure a year ago there was a set of users claiming systemd was the worst thing to happen to Linux since snap.

So why are you advising to change the default install of Debian to include it?

Every recipe that works for Ubuntu works for Debian,

May as well just install Ubuntu then.

For the cutting edge 2% of new stuff, newbies are increasingly better off on Debian.

Citation needed. Pretty sure this is either personal opinion or anti-canonical, anti-snap ideology.

Targeting WSL users with this rhetoric is ridiculous. If you want to tailor your own systems outside the norm then sure go ahead but claiming things will be easier for a newbie by running specific commands they don't have the context or expertise to comprehend is absurd.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So why are you advising to change the default install of Debian to include it?

I didn't advice any such thing. My edit is just to acknowledge someone else who makes it part of their process.

Citation needed.

I shared my personal experience and you turned it into a distro war. Go look up your own damn sources.

Pretty sure this is either personal opinion or anti-canonical, anti-snap ideology.

Fuck yes. It's both! Snap is a slap in the face to the contributors who brought Canonical this far. I appreciate their partnership so far, and now, speaking as a package maintainer, Canonical can fuck right off.

Targeting WSL users with this rhetoric is ridiculous.

Helping people make an informed decision about their tool chain is rhetoric? Give me a fucking break.

I don't like Ubuntu. That's not a secret. Ubuntu is a fine option for total newbies. People using WSL tend not to be total newbies and may well run into real issues (such as the ones that prompted me to switch), thanks to snap.

[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

I shared my personal experience and you turned it into a distro war.

My original comment was pointing out this entire post is an unnecessary distro war. Except now WSL is the battleground. It's so unnecessary. I'm genuinely surprised anyone gives a shit about WSL.

People using WSL tend not to be total newbies and may well run into real issues (such as the ones that prompted me to switch), thanks to snap.

OK, that's a different assumption to me. I kinda presume anyone toying with WSL is one of their early experiences with Linux.

My experience was if you're fiddling enough with WSL that you're running into issues then you may as well ditch Windows and move to Linux.

Hence arguing over which WSL distro someone is using is irrelevant. You're better of persuading them to try dual booting Linux instead.