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Summary

Donald Trump’s decisive victory in the 2024 election leaves no room for ambiguity or an “asterisk” in his legitimacy, as he won both the popular vote and the Electoral College.

This outcome represents a clear mandate from American voters, who knowingly chose Trump’s policies and approach.

The anticipated results include pardons for January 6 participants, attacks on the press, and an administration filled with controversial figures.

By voting for Trump, Americans prioritized divisive rhetoric over democratic values, accepting the resulting turmoil.

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[–] glowing_hans@sopuli.xyz 6 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Unpopular Opinion: Trump represents a demographic transition in the U.S. as the old people go into retirement new young people emerge. The retiring and now dying people had the following properties:

  • did not use social media, reads popular newspapers
  • extrovert, wanted to dominate international institutions and create new international rules
  • pro free markets, wanted to achieve global systems dominance, containment of enemies (Soviet Union)
  • unionized working class (example: Boeing employee)
  • majority Protestant, Catholic or Mormon

Meanwhile Peter Thiel, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy and other Silicon Valley emperors captured a new demographic:

  • uses social media, isolated in select bubbles
  • introvert, isolationist
  • pro tariffs, local markets, walls as a symbolic and total solution to societies openness, what I would describe as "self containment protectionism"
  • not in a union, does not even dream of a union. (example: Fruit picker in Florida/Texas)
  • Catholic, majority is atheist now

This might represent the final shift away from the old cold war era to a new war(?) era. To my understanding South America is majority introvert conservative catholic in its foreign policy and North america is (was) majority extrovert unionized protestant in its foreign policy. And now North America starts to look more like an isolationist version of Argentinia or Brazil to me with heavy protestant tones (think of Milei of Argentinia or Bolsonaro of Brazil, who are ironically more protestant than catholic in their support base). I am not american so proudly correct me where I am totally wrong in my analysis.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

TBH I think there is a negative correlation between introvert/isolationist and fans of Musk. Musk is more appealing to the average schmuck, idiots who know not of his sins. People who use social media for good vibes but question nothing.

[–] glowing_hans@sopuli.xyz 5 points 21 hours ago

Yep I agree now the analysis is wrong on the extrovert/introvert part and it is totally uncorrelated. Many "business types" who love the Elons, Peter Thiels, or Viveks out there seem management types who want short term stock prices to go up, by any means needed.

Also I would not describe Donald Trump or Steve Banon as introverts.