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[–] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not soorts teams. Going further left means reaching rural people and poor people. A lot of the working class just isn't aware of what left and right mean. If the left let's republican dictate who is taking those ppl's side this is how it's auways gonna end. Posh elitism has failed yet again

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There was an election between an independent union leader and a career politician in Nebraska and the career politician won by a landslide. How do you explain that?

The career politician ran a better campaign and lied more believably.

Also not all union leaders are left wing, paradoxically. There are legitimate reasons that Americans distrust unions.

[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

One example does not a rule make, and in the US electoral system money (and the party affiliations that bring it) speaks loudest of all. Maybe going further left wouldn't work, but going further right certainly hasn't. When Harris first emerged as the candidate she had such a swell of support, as she moved further right she lost it.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Voters are saying it is because of inflation. Not because she didn’t go further left.

[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sure, but if she had spent her few months promising to tax the shit out of Elon Musk and other billionaires I bet people would have been more excited and actually showed up to vote than when she promised to keep the course and also appoint a Republican

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Harris literally campaigned with a promise to tax the billionaires more.

Billionaires countered her campaign by doing things like literally buying votes.

Now people on lemmy are pretending she never promised to tax billionaires more.

[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry, I meant she should have been Bernie-style grandstanding about it and hammering it home and making it a core part of her campaign more than it not being in her plans at all. I feel like she started with that kind of message and was doing well and ended with the Cheneys like me and ill put a Republican in my cabinet and lost

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

The polls show most voters were motivated by inflation and thought democrats were to blame. Republicans and the billionaire class convinced enough voters that increasing taxes on billionaires would make it worse.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

thats nice, did you figure out how that would translates to americans affording a roof, eggs, and milk?

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Ya it’s called common sense. See our government expenses are paid with taxes so if billionaires pay less taxes the rest of us pay more so we have less money for a roof, eggs and milk.

If we tax billionaires for their fair share then we pay less taxes and have more money.

I guess common sense isn’t so common.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

😂 oh boy. Child i said eggs, milk, and roofs.

Taxes are literally the last thing thats the problem there. We're at historic lows. Lowering them for the low/middle class isnt going to get them food/housing.

You crow about common sense and then completely misfire.

Dont get me wrong I'm all for taxing billionaires hard. But thats not going to put more money in your pocket for the items above.

You'll need to do a lot more than tax billionaires harder to fix those issues.

And im here for those changes in addition to taking billionaires more.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

The benefits don’t end there. If you really need me to keep explaining economics to you then just go take a course. If we taxed billionaires their fair share we could afford public services like child care or health care. Income inequality is the root of many of our problems in America. Including politics because now the wealthy have enough to literally buy votes as we saw with Elon Musk.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And non-voters don't get to have an opinion or seat at the adults table because they enabled fascism.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

One example does not a rule make

Missouri voted to overturn abortion ban and voted for republicans.

Florida nearly voted for abortion ban and voted for republicans.

Americans have shown they want change but they also don't understand how that can be achieved.

Apparently Biden/Harris chose not to push 'make things better' magical button in the Oval Office so they're getting the boot and the guy who shat the bed earlier is now getting the opportunity to burn the house down.

[–] H1jAcK@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nebraska isn't a homestead of liberal ideals?

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Neither is the entirety of America.