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Question: Is genocide in Xinjiang a red line for you?
I already know what your answer's going to be, I'm just asking to highlight what your real goal here is.
I do not live in China and cannot do any advocacy related to Xinjiang. Though I will point out that there is not a genocide there. By now you should be able to recognize the differences. The mass killings, the videos, the diaspora, the intense censorship. We could discuss the ridiculous think tank and fake university apparatus that sold that lie with the US State Department, but to be frank, it is disgusting to distract from opposition to the genocide of Palestinians with this lazy attempt at a gotcha. Personally, I think you should apologize.
My real goal is to advocate against normalization of genocide in the US. I have organized actions and protests to this effect for over a year.
Do your best to at least not believe your own bullshitting.
Okay, so you're okay with genocide in Xinjiang, just not in Gaza. And your strategy for solving the genocide in Gaza is to let someone come into power who's even more pro-genocide that the tepid pro-genocide stance of the current Democrats. Dooming millions of innocent people who can't fight back to a catastrophe beyond even their present catastrophe.
So you're okay with certain genocides. And you don't want strategies that will avoid a huge escalation of the existing genocide in Gaza.
It honestly doesn't sound like you're very anti-genocide.
This is a lie and I will not respond until it is retracted.
You're right, technically you're okay with denying the genocide in Xinjiang, the genocide itself must cause some uncomfortable dissonance.
I'm happy to continue this discussion in another thread or via DM, as I would prefer to center Palestinians and their plight and not your interest in finding fictitious hypocrisy. Let me know if you make a thread.
It's not fictitious. You are a hypocrite and a disingenuous "idealist." Realists see through you.
You have already acknowledged that my supposed hypocrisy is fictitious, you just tried to then deflect to another criticism, i.e. denial. And I will engage with that criticism if you make another thread or go into DMs. But this thread is not about me or you, it is about the genocide of Palestinians.
Pay attention. You're addressing a different person. Your engagement is not needed. This is not up for debate. This is a statement of who you are.
When your input is desired again, your string will be pulled once more.
This is like 10 comments deep so yes I missed a new person jumping in to make the contribution of reiterating parent's sentiment and then launching unsupported insults.
If you would like to discuss this further, make a new thread and ping me. I'm not sure why I need to say this 3 times.
Is this like a little skit playing out in your head or something? Either way, again, the topic here is the genocide of Palestinians. I will be ignoring further off-topic replies.
Nah, my vote is you stay right here, not go slinking of to some safe space. You opened your gob, take your lumps, you disingenuous muppet.
You seem proud of your vote for someone genociding Palestinians
You sure are focused on genocide. So, you'll call out China's treatment of the Uyghurs, yes? The Russian genocide being committed in Ukraine right now? No? Not those genocides?
Run along, obvious muckraker.
Whataboutism. Everybody agrees ukraine is getting fucked by russia it's not controversial.
Neither of those genocides and your reference to them cheapens the term and distracts from your actual knowing support for genocide. Instead of reaching for the quick excuse to stop thinking, do some introspection on why you are okay with normalizing genocide.
Out of respect, I would like to venter Palestinians and the genocide they are facing, but I will discuss what you'd like about China and Russia in another thread. Feel free to make one and link it here.
You failed a bit
Probably lol
Lol. I love the "you got me, so let's take this discussion into privacy" line. What a joke.
They are free to make another thread and link it here. I am just not interested in distracting from the genocide on Palestinians here.
You can go start that thread if you'd like, feel free to ping me.
Translation: i got publicly slapped down hard and didn't like it, so I'm gonna act smug and superior while i take my ball and go home.
Nope I'm happy to have that discussion. Feel free to make a thread and ping me.
I know you, like the others, probably won't. This is because you have the situation completely reversed: this is a bad faith deflection that you cannot support and don't really care about. You are only interested to the extent that you can feel like it is a gotcha and use this to stop thinking about your complicity in genocide.
The reason why is because asking for a new thread is just you trying to hide. Odds are no one would see the new thread, and you're also putting the effort onto others knowing that it likely won't be done, so then you can act like you won. You're intentions are crystal clear though and you just look like a fool.
Through having a discussion in a public forum? Don't be silly.
You can link it here and they will see it if they are interested. Go ahead. I'm waiting.
It is unlikely it will be done because you don't really care about the tooic. It is just an excuse to stop thinking about your complicity in genocide.
Do you really think the "gotcha! You don't care about genocide you hypocrite!" line is coming from someone trying to actually engage on the Biden-Harris genocide of Palestine? Because it is obviously about deflection.
Feel free to make a thread and link it here. Go ahead.
Oh snap! You are a shill for emperor Pooh bear!? I didn't see that twist!
Haha! Looks like you don't like the corner they backed you into, eh?
More like I know that conversation can easily go 10 comments deep so I suggested taking it elsewhere. I prefer to center the genocide of Palestine in this thread.
So far at least 3 people have responded but none have made a thread.
If you want to have that discussion feel free to make a thread and ping me. But like the others, I doubt you really mean what you say. It is just a thought terminating cliche that lets you forgive yourself for complicity in genocide.
Fucking 🤡
Go away.
Please do your best to engage in good faith and avoid namecalling.