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That's the key difference between unconditional military aid and conditional military aid. The weapons are being used for genocide, and we have continually sent those weapons unconditionally for over a year.
It doesn't matter if it's conditional or not, the Genocide will continue as it's not dependent on our aid. They started it in Gaza before our aid even got there.
It absolutely does. We are the main provider of weapons. It would be a major pressure point for them to stop, as well as influence other western nations to do the same. It also matters according to US Law (Leahy Law) and International Humanitarian Law.
We've been the main provider of military aid for far longer than a year.
We're the main supplier, but they don't need them for the genocide.
Snipers are shooting little kids in the head, bullets are dirt cheap.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/02/gaza-palestinian-children-killed-idf-israel-war
Ok? They also use far more than just bullets to kill Palestinian children. I don't understand how this is an argument against implementing Conditional Military Aid. Nor against continuing to violate US and International Humanitarian Law.
The only argument I see from that is to not only end supply of military weapons, but also intervene to stop the genocide, which I would agree with.
They do, but they don't need more than that for a genocide.
They've been engaging in a slow motion genocide since the 90s:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip
They certainly have, with the military and international support by the US and other Western Nations. That's exactly why Israel needs to be pressured by international support to stop and agree to a permanent ceasefire that includes the liberation of Palestine.
I don't understand your position. Do you support conditional aid or an arms embargo? How should the US pressure Israel to stop the genocide?
My personal preference is more radical than that... full military intervention, separate the Israelis from the Palestinians, arrest Bibi and the rest of Likud and set up full war crimes tribunals.
But nobody has the political capital for that.
Cool, I agree with that. Considering the settlements in the West Bank, I don't think separation is the right way to go about it. I think integration with equal rights, including right of return, and a regime change with a Bi-National secular government is necessary. I agree with Ilan Pappe and Avi Schlaim on a One-State Solution.
I also agree that practically no one in either the Democratic and definitely Republican Administrations care about a genuine peace. It's all either Financial with the MIC and for some ideological. I think change is only possible with public pressure built with organization and solidarity, both in the US and also other Western Nations.
Well, that's long term... I'm thinking short term to stop the genocide.
Once the prosecutions are over then you can think long term integration.