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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I feel that many Russians are against Putler's regime, but are (rightfully so) too afraid to speak up.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 23 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (5 children)
[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

In favor of what? They aren't being told the truth about anything. They're in favor of an imaginary war for imaginary reasons.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

That may be true. But I tend to believe factual journalism over a random internet person's conjecture that you seem to be sure of for some reason.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 13 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

How is what he said wrong? 25% is "many Russians".

[–] essell@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

How would that number change if all those people had access to independent reporting?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

There's an old joke about agents from the CIA and KGB sharing a drink at a pub in Berlin.

"I have to admit, I'm always so impressed by Soviet propaganda. You really know how to get people worked up," the CIA agent says.

"Thank you," the KGB says. "We do our best but truly, it's nothing compared to American propaganda. Your people believe everything your state media tells them."

The CIA agent drops his drink in shock and disgust. "Thank you friend, but you must be confused... There's no propaganda in America."

[–] essell@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

That is a truly excellent joke. I will remember that

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

The Trumpublicans in the U.S. have access to independent reporting, yet they choose instead to limit themselves to lies that make them feel like they're better than everyone else.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 4 points 5 hours ago

I don't have access to it, but allegedly on VK which is the Russian knockoff of Facebook, they also have similar numbers of a majority in favor of destroying Ukraine.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe it would change but Russian culture is still Russian culture.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Seriously, you can't unshit a pool.

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I mean given that you get arrested for a showing a blank piece of paper and sent to prison/gulag... Do you really think that de-annonymised people would put their opinions forward?

But also in the west where we don't have quite such a police state, we still do have many people who vote against their interests until their own interests are being affected...

Moral of the story... Humans suck

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Humans suck

Conservatives suck. The normal people are actually pretty cool.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 11 points 6 hours ago

It’s not that they’re for or against. They don’t care.